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  • This gets worse and worse

    gogoshica wrote: »
    Cutee wrote: »
    i think at least the s3 raids should be 8 man ers again, sucks to not be able to play with everyone from the guild cuz "Sorry no spots left" :|

    Or you could like...you know...make 2 parties of 4 men.

    Unless you enjoy the community of normal 8 person raid groups? People could easily do 4 man groups, including by setting up oaths for it. Sorry that you're so unhappy that you always throw your vitriol about as though it will make you feel better, hope you get through whatever is going on. Being completely serious.
    DubDeeZaeadras
  • Rise - Where did the fun go?

    Quinque wrote: »
    jeddyhi wrote: »
    If you do not like the update, you have two choices. One is do what you did and cry and moan and complain, even stomp your feet and hold your breath if you like. The other is to quit the game and move on. A 3 week investment is minuscule compared to people who have been here since 2010. As a matter of fact, I find your post somewhat insulting, crying like that and being a 3 week noob.

    Ironically, it's the new players who Nexon really cares about. The whole purpose of the RISE update is to get new players to play and "enjoy" this game for a long time.

    Shame Nexon hasn't figured out that it costs more to bring in new customers than to retain old ones, and that loyalty and retention are much more valuable to a company than flighty spenders.
    arkaine757Quinque
  • Rise: Revolution Update

    SLAYER0 wrote: »
    So how are people suppose to get lower level armor? For example a lvl 60-70 character, how are they supppose to craft armor if the NPC's can't. Like the Chiulin armor set. How are they suppose to get the armor anymore?

    Some have been completely removed from the game. Some you can only get if someone else crafts them for you. Welcome to progress.
    BraveBlade2
  • Your Thoughts on Additional Damage Changes?

    WhiteYukii wrote: »
    This is not as bad as people want it to be. As I said, there is literally no reason to be outraged by this, The game is still largely the same, strong players will hard-carry and weak players will leech until they become a strong player, or quit. Vindictus has always been like this, at least for the last few years. This game is like Warframe, it doesn't matter how strong other players get, it will always be mutually beneficial for everyone they interact with. This is all I am saying. In my opinion, the fact that they made the raids faceroll, or you can't enhance restored gear anymore are way bigger issues because these directly affect every player in the game. I could not care less if some dude that has better gear than me anyways, got some more AD than me. This is a beta issue especially for this type of game.

    WhiteYukii wrote: »
    Also, getting the gear to begin with does take a degree of skill as well.
    Spamming the same morbus boss to get money sure takes skill lol... ^^'

    Makes me understand why Rise actually happened on this game when I see certain posts on these forums.

    There is skill in patience
    There is skill in time/money management
    There is skill in planning
    There is skill in spending your IRL money wisely (unless you are just a rich whale that can waste money left and right)
    There is skill in having the sheer willpower to play this grindy ass game.
    The game isn't just fighting the boss, most of the game is farming, grinding, planning and patience. There is a reason some people cannot and/or will not ever be as geared as the best players. It is not ALL skill but it does take some skill to achieve this in any game. Everything in life, including breathing and reading this post, takes a degree of skill to execute.

    Those things that you mention don't equate to skill in game. For some reason you missed that others are arguing that the point of this update is to get people to feel their best option is to spend real money to progress. Someone who drops a few hundred--or a few thousand if they're unlucky--on the new special runes and premium runes and NX boxes for airtight items to sell for gold to buy whatever they don't get lucky on does not reflect in game skill, and it never will.

    Guess what? Once that person who's all geared out hops into a raid even if they're horrible that stacked gear will keep them alive and ever hit they get on the boss in their unskilled flailing will get them more rewards than someone who knows the bosses, knows their character, and puts in the effort to play well--simply because they don't have the gear.

    That is not a good system. You believe what you like, but your point has been refuted in other threads and multiple times in this one.
    XieKayoAemskey
  • Your Thoughts on Additional Damage Changes?

    XaldinZ wrote: »
    Just wanna post this Here about this AD thing
    +13 Regina LongSword +2000 AD http://prntscr.com/fo46lf
    +15 Armagedon hammer ONLY +1450 http://prntscr.com/fo46v0

    tell me how this makes sense? If anything Lvl 80 gear should NOT be EVEN more handicapped. I feel like there is no point to my +15 80 now. A full charged stigma on Muir Hero crit did 26k while a Crit Amaranth did 42k from the sword

    Both those dmg where in stage 2 Paladin with Maxed out Transendance

    This is the most unfair part of the update. There were players who put in the time and effort to make the most out of the +15 70 and 80 weapons that they had and all of that energy was invalidated. This is literally DevCat telling players that what they did was worthless in the eyes of the DoL and the Devs. Hitting +15 on those weapons, likely rescrolling when new enchants came out, and everything possible out of accessories and other enchants and now you're nothing compared to someone who got lucky with an OJ +12.

    It's insulting to treat the players this way, but as seen in this thread there are players who will gobble it up and try and tell everyone else how good it tastes. I hope their love of this horror show is enough to keep Vindi afloat, cause my dollars certainly won't be doing it.
    Xie