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Prototypemind wrote: »

Do they really think 4 people only is going to emphasize the multiplayer aspect? 4 player parties do not allow for nearly enough Fashiondictus.

I see a lot of positive changes, but it is very clear that these were all done as Nexon saw fit with no consultation from players who are familiar with and very involved with the game. So many amazing fixes but a few that will cause just as much division and stress as before, if not even more in some cases. I really don't think they get that 8 player battles were fun. Even farming Lagho for events was fun having a full group and just messing around. These changes will definitely keep a lot of people playing casually but I can't be happy about the depth it will take away in terms of community interaction.

Huge steps forward, huge steps back, e-special-f'ingly the +20 system. That can go DIAF.

I am going to guess that half of it is to make hosting easier too. IE the big emphasis on multicore working on a bunch more runs + making it so you never have issues.

(Note I am not a fan of the 4 man limit, and the 12 man royal raids, but it also will make it seem more active since in principle there should be 2x more boats being made. Also their gerbils should live longer with 12 man royals...)

Really not looking forward to the +20.

And in all honestly most of this just makes me go meh, maybe it is time to just move on soon. The game already isn't what I fell in love with and now it is just moving closer and closer to easy mode only.

Order5 wrote: »

@Prototypemind
Just do Aghlan, who has 9 break-offs. Just break his head, leg covering, and leg crystal. You don't even need to fight him because any level 60 character can just bomb-kite with a trainee weapon.

Even better it takes just 1 lion's roar on choo choo train (bark), easy mode;-)

Well after you have all the gremlins memorized it turns out it is easy to do full without trans on spears now. With trans I just trans right away and go all the way through. Course helps I can run with 102 base att spd if I want...

Only my lv ~64 alts I have to trans early during second map. And that is just to manage >5 bars :-)

Spears no trans, I might (depends on the path I had to take) have to spend a few seconds killing the other guys before I kill the boss to cap it.

FYI I use paw right away, then use it when it shows up again. (assuming no trans)




Note just to see I had at least 22 seconds of filled bar after the kill with trans. (Screen shot for .000 (photo showed first time) to .004 showed below).

natraz wrote: »

Yea another trash event just wasted my +11 sword boomed twice trying for 12 then bought another sword it failed 20 times just going to +6 so yea get real nexon your events are total BS!

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -Albert Einstein

Even with this event you only have 35.2% odds of going from +1->+6 without a fail. So while it is low odds and you likely are exaggerating, it still is very possible to fail 20 times in a row.

Carino wrote: »

No need to lie. Do not advise as overclocking. 7700K accelerates as well as the rest 80 +% of processors in the world. 5000 MHz (+ 11 / + 19%) is a rarity. Talk about the top (!) Overclocking can children or someone who is not competent in this. You are not competent in compilers either. No need to lie that games are not compiled under the amd. It's naive.
Ryzen 1700 can accelerate + 30%. Do not mix the overclocking of the top frequency cpu with low frequency! This applies to all processors.

Talk about the price is superfluous. 7700K is not a 2011 socket.
About overclocking Intel. Try to overclock the 5960 / 6900K to a frequency of 7700K. Good luck. And he will also lose 7700K in single-threaded games. The price is 1000-1100 $.

4690K frequency + 21,8% relative to the test 1800х. Draw conclusions. Then look at the frequency of 7700K and 6900K and 1800x.

P.s. Sorry for bad English

I don't follow you at all. Where did I lie?

Base clock of 7700 is 3.6 with a boost of 4.2 ghz. In my mind anything you get higher = OC. Stock OC should get to 4.8 on basically all CPU with stock cooling/no deliding = 15%, ~1/3 maybe more will hit +5 Ghz = ~20% once you delid/improve cooling.

7700k is currently the Best gaming CPU. Note I am only focusing on Gaming, what this entire thread is focused on. If you want to think about future games then more cores likely will matter, but today in the gaming scene a 7700k is the best you can get according to all the review websites.

The cost of a 7700k + 1151 LGA MB on newegg right now can be found for 400 bucks, but I went to a slightly better mb model for 420.

A 1800x base clock is 3.6 Ghz with a boost to 4 ghz. I don't know of anyone that hit above 4.2 stable here and even that is very tough to hit. I would obviously suggest saving money and get a 1700x ~500 bucks or 1700 ~420 bucks but that isn't the point of this thread. I was taking the two best Gaming CPUs and comparing them -> If you toss in the money the cheapest I can find for 1800x + any MB 599.99 on newegg. (I am sure you can find cheaper other places, but same can be said for Intel.)

So then you get to the crux of the issue. You can buy a 200$ cheaper best Intel gaming processor + MB that is faster on the vast majority of games. This low price is due in part from AMD releasing their new CPUs, but I see no reason to jump to AMD for a CPU that isn't as good if you are a gamer.


Sorry I don't follow the second half your arguments. But if you are focusing on encoding, and work related tasks, then we can have a civil chat about that somewhere else. Obviously for Intel the more cores you have = less you can OC. IE I am sure if you disabled 3 cores + HT on a 7700 CPU that hit 5 ghz it would manage ~5.2 ghz.

As for AMD optimized coding... Just take a look at some of the bigger tech focused sites. AMD just did a big PR push with Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation to show what an optimized game can pull off. The results look great. Just no one has done it yet, and hardly anyone is doing it now. AMD has a huge uphill battle to traverse before they can convince the average publisher to optimize games for there unique CPU architecture. I wont put links to other places here, but send me a PM if you are actually interested in seeing what they need to do convince game publishers to do.