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CuraiHotaru wrote: »

Man you really made vindictus into a part of your life, you should get out more. The community has 0 power, if you've played this game the most feedback we ever had during all the years we had in this game was: "we forwarded your suggestions" end of that, never ever have we changed anything with our suggestions, you're just another dumbass who's getting used, and you can't see it. Literally the same type of people that keep going to the casino hoping to win, when they are indebt.

They give no info, because they won't say, "our contract with the servers has gone by, and we won't bother spending money to renew them, because you guys don't pay enough money for us to make it worth and pay our salary"

I'm not gonna turn this thread into a personal fight but i'll say a couple of things.

Vindictus is my favourite game in my spared time (after all my duties irl).
The fact ppl like it so much doesn't mean they should 'get out more', it's just a matter of "tastes".
We surely like the game more than you. That's a subjective thing and not criticizable by both parts.
If you're a game hopper who ditch everything everywhere so easily or you don't like this game as much as most ppl here it's your own problem.

IF there's someone who should go out more, at most, that's you since your sh1tposts are everywhere in any thread that comes out lately. I read some threads lately and i see you everywhere you and your useless saltiness with 0 value arguments.
I assume you have a lot of spare time.

That said..

if you're against what is being said here why you don't simply LEAVE and let ppl with surely more knowledge discuss the matter?
We already got your point and your 2cents.
Or i have to assume you just like to counter ppl on a matter that yourself isn't interested and not support at all? Isn't that kinda pointless?

So just leave pls.

Ortix wrote: »

LynnCUBE wrote: »

Guild Revamp is coming soon which will kill all inactive / small guilds and force players to join big active guilds if that is what you want.

Well mostly “big” Guilds are quite inactive and also number of players doesn’t always determine strength.
Small Guild with 20 strong players ready for sacrifices, and care about rest of guildmates as well seems to be even better.
If this revamp is just about “clean” inactive guild it’s fine but still not what WE, the players of MMORPG game would like to have.
I think that every game and especially Vindictus should be appointed by something better then just few, poor buffs like it is for now.

1. Small guilds with 20 strong ppl + guildmates (i suppose both online in the same moment) can't be called 'small' guild.
Idk if you play on NA or EU server but on EU a guild with 20ppl online (atm) is already decent.

2. What's the meaning to point out << and also number of players doesn’t always determine strength >>?
In your post you are talking about incentive players to belong to a guild with buffs or other stuff, which is correct and fair,
but i don't see why u're highlighting the strenght side. Guilds can be weak or strongs and both enjoy the game at the same level.
I hope you're not another elitist out there who think a guild must be fiilled with OP ppl to be worthy to exist...
If you're not an elitist, helping guildmates won't be a 'sacrifice' but rather something u could be proud of.

I agree with the rest.
Unfortunately , I guess, all this will just add another page to the countless topics about suggestions to improve the game, rightfully complains, etc.. which will probably (but i alwasy hope to be wrong) get regularly ignored mostly by the fact, as someone said already, the gameplay aspect is controlled and ruled by KR.
NA only decide sales and events (and even that not fully).

The playerbase is way lower than the friendlist limit +cold

Self replying threads are a trend now?

@Deprived u have all the rights to explain your thinking but bashing against someone just because doesn't understand or doesn't share your thoughts equal to turn an interesting thread into a stupid, boring, repetitive clash between 2 ppl.

Not only u lose the focus on the main issue but u also risk that this thread get closed cause too much fire...

Robert cash from unknown time and always supported nexon (even reporting any kind of bs to nexon for the sake of some justice/jellyness who knows).
In the end it doesn't really matter cause
the game needs someone who cash anyway or it might be closed someday.

Back to the topic i want to add some things that have been skipped about it.
The article says the case is dated back to 2016. Maybe only a few of you remember that back in the past nexon 'never' told us what were the chance to find certain items.
They started to publish these rates only recently (1 year or 2) which coincide perfectly with the start of this process in kr. Probably once the mess was done there, they wanted to avoid more law issues elsewhere. So one day the rates for the gacha magically appeared also here but nobody knew what was behind.

Also, the fine is not only referred to the missing rates but 'also for the unfair too much low rates' of the mentioned item.
Read better the article...

Nexon being shady is known since long.
Back in the past, a group of korean players succesfully tested an old gacha in vindictus and the found out that the players who had more nx items in their nx inventory were subject to a weird boost in luck about rares in game and gachas.
These players opened a serious investigation with actual evidences and when the whole thing came up Nexon kr just closed the case with smt like: oh yeah we found out you are right but wasn't intended. It is just a 'bug'. Patched and fixed case closed.
(Pretty well programmed bug tho).

Unfortunately I don't have the article link here but im pretty sure some of you heard about it.


That said i could bet on a thing that i saw happening too many times to call it coincidence. Day one of any gachas rares pop up everywhere giving the illusion and attracting ppl that it is a easy win.

In the next days when ppl buy a lot of them cause teased, weirdely rares start to disappear and become incredibly hard to find. Coincidence? I don't think so. The logic behind is quite easy to understand.
So, despite it might be just speculations, the rates are 'tweaked' more times to their advantage. Fair? Not at all.

The rates we have into the client which anybody can datamine doesn't represent the same rates on the server side...
The server side could use the same client rate plus other variables that only they knows, or even a totally different calculation of the rates. Server is not the same as the client and many stuffs (fair or not) are just hidden to us.

Robert says whoever sell u smt whatever are the conditions, it is in their right to sell how they want and your rights to decide to buy or no.
Partially true imo. U could say that for private sellings but if we talk globally there are actual 'laws' that rule the markets and even prices, same as exist differents istitutions that safeguard the consumers against any kind of illegal or unfair tradings.

I personally saw ppl spending about 500 euro to find a pet or a set and they found nothing. I believe every player that spend over a 'human' amount of money in those gambles should be assured something back like the chance to get a pet or a set.

Some of you might say: ehi then I should be assured a money win on the slotmachines if i spend enough? No.
But if we are talking about buying digital abstract items that worth absolutely 0 especially cause u don't really own anything of the things u buy in game.
The day the game close you will lose 'everything'. So the slot machine and the general gamble were u have the chance to win smt worthy can't be applied in this case.

Yes that person got his set in the end with coupons after 500 euro spent, but does that digital item worth that much?
NOT AT ALL. And as if it wasn't enough the gachas went from 990nx to 1900nx and from 250 coupons for a rare to 450...


I understand costs and expenses for a company but i guess that some choices goes beyond any kind of 'morality'.