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Order5 wrote: »

There really isn't any extortion in this particular situation because the only thing hanging in the balance is a Miri registration package that you don't even own yet. And based on your argument, giving up false information would work just the same as real information

I didn't mean extortion in this situation. Although technically failing to solve this in the way I already specified on here (just find the account with the character and register for me since I obviously owned the Steam account) just because I didn't give RWI in a situation where it wasn't needed does count as holding the solution ransom.

And no, I said that if a random person contacted the company, said "here's my real world info, I want this account cuz I say it's mine", Nexon would take access away from the rightful owner and give it to that random person, if we follow Rhapsody's logic of RWI acting as a tertiary password.

Mainichi wrote: »

They do this to verify account ownership. If you know the name and birthday you signed up under, regardless of whether it was fake or not, then you're likely the owner. If it matches your ID because the information was real, then that's pretty solid proof it's your account. I personally signed up with fake information back in 2007/2008, but I still know the name and birthday I signed up under.

I don't even remember putting in a name when I signed up with this account, because it was far too many years ago. I've made multiple accounts over the years, in some cases because I forgot I already had one, and I don't remember which names I used to sign up with. I likely haven't ever used my real name because it's none of their business what my real name is, but I may have - I don't remember because it's been so long ago, and I don't even remember there being a name section when I registered.

And speaking of which, what will you do when they ask you to provide an ID for that 2007/2008 account? Are you going to photoshop an ID to get the issue solved? This is the problem - nowhere does the company say they need your RWI for account verification. They only say that in hindsight once you try to use Support, and tons of other MMO companies are the same way.

I have access to my email, my Steam account, my character in-game, my secondary password, and I could easily answer some security questions if I ever set those up. RWI is completely unnecessary and proves nothing. It's an illogical invasion of privacy.

RhapsodyOfFire wrote: »

but if you are the real owner, you probably want to have your issue resolved so you will give it to them anyway. It's like a tertiary 'password'.

No, it's not. It's extortion and privacy invasion. The people who give that information are just impatient and don't care enough about identity theft to protect themselves. What they don't realize is that not only the company employees, but anyone who hacks the company can get all of that information.

And while they are supposed to delete that information, they don't really have to because no government in the world investigates to make sure the information has been deleted, which is why many MMO companies keep that data over time. In fact, many nations that have the law you're speaking of (of which there are very few) allow companies to keep that information months or even years before the law requires them to get rid of it through super complicated means.

In the beautiful world you're envisioning, a hacker could send a complaint about a false hack and give their real information over, then the legitimate account holder will lose their account just because the hacker gave over their own information. The company will think the hacker is the real account holder, and therefore the company will hack the account FOR them.

Um, okay, but why make a clone post?

Maybe your Add Dmg stat isn't high enough.

"Please select a different room to play in. You'll have more fun there."

I absolutely love how the game calls out boat kickers as jerks.