Deprived

MmmBacon wrote: »

classic lanns living in the past. just because spear lann loses to every single class doesn't mean he takes skill lol
also its better to compare him to a class like battleshade or arisha, i know multiple hurks in the top 10 rankings and they all agree he takes no skill

"Classic lanns living in the past"

For the record I was playing on a spear lann just a month or two ago so I'd say I'm fairly up to date on the current state of the class. But I thank you for sharing your useless and irrelevant opinion. And I did mention Arisha is also another very advanced class that also deserves to be in the high skill bracket. If you had bothered to read the thread before posting and making a fool out of yourself you would know that and no, it isn't better to just compare him to the only two classes you choose, every single class should be considered and compared with one another.

But I know everyone wants to give their opinion and feel important no matter how useless it is, I understand, you just want a little attention even if you make yourself look stupid in the process, whatever it takes to get a little attention in your lonely life right? It's okay, I know.

"Just because spear lann loses to every single class..."

LOL please child, you don't know what the hell you're talking about or what this conversation is even about - this isn't about any dps competition or winning or "losing" (as you put it) to other classes fool it's a discussion and comparison between different classes and the skill required to excel with them in the hands of an AVERAGE player with AVERAGE day to day gear a casual or new player would have like free level 90 gear as far as I'm concerned.

Take your nonsense about dps competitions and "losing" to other classes and your top 10 player ranks elsewhere - all you have to do to be in the top 10 ranks in Vindictus is spend the most money on the game and you're done. It's the top 10 whale rankings, you don't need any actual skill to spend thousands of dollars on the game to get a high rank, you just open your wallet and the opinions of these players are the last I would care about.

And please dude, keep your he said she said rumors to yourself, I don't care what your supposed top 10 hurk friends said about spear lann's difficulty. Those same hurks are playing on one of the easiest most braindead classes in the game, they know nothing about class skill difficulties and the fact that they've put so much money into a Hurk that they're top 10 rank reinforces my point even more.

Hurk is literally one of the most well known meme characters of this game, it's a joke class, all the character is doing is spamming shift + right click 99% of the time and anyone who loves a character like that to the extent that they would reach top 10 rank should not be giving their opinions on which class takes skill and which doesn't.

You sound like a girl that knows nothing about sports but wants to jump into a sports debate and tell everyone what's what and act like they know everything about it and act like they're smarter than everyone to stroke their own ego or fit in or something.

Puppyman wrote: »

Why def matter, if you play good you wouldn't get hit to the point that it would matter

Almost entirely irrelevant stat when comparing general dps potential of characters

That's true, defense doesn't matter if you don't get hit.

And if you take the average player with average gear in an average level 90 raid like Regina for instance playing a spear lann they WILL get hit lots and they will die fairly quickly and that's a very easy way to tell how difficult it really is to play the character. Because unlike other characters, spear lann requires much more knowledge of every single boss attack and mechanic before you even have a chance to excel with him. Other classes are much more forgiving therefore their survivability is much greater. Your average player doesn't have to sit down and watch video of almost every raid battle to do well with a lot of other classes the way you do with spear lann (unless you're a tank with 18k defense of course).

That's much different from giving your average player nearly capped out ridiculously high defense in the average 90 raid or even dullahan because they definitely won't be dying as much and it'll be harder to tell which is the most difficult to play.

And this isn't a dps comparison, dps alone isn't going to tell you how difficult it is to play and excel with a character. Look at great sword Hurk, a class that is pretty much nothing but shift + right click and how much dps he still deals doing this. It isn't very difficult at all to do that yet he has extremely high dps potential.

noctred wrote: »

Deprived wrote: »

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lol. it has been a while since i've read so much long-winded bullshit in a single post.

i forgot who i was talking to. carry on.

Translation: I'm too stupid to read more than one sentence in a post and I don't belong in threads where intelligent conversation and debates are going on with mature adults. It's too hard for me guys, someone help me and only say one sentence to me at a time because I'm too slow and my attention span is too short. Also he doesn't want to agree with me so I'm going to just say what he said is bullshit because I'm too stupid to say anything else so I'll just throw in profanity to show how salty and angry I am so people think I'm right. I bet they'll think I'm the one that's right if I get emotional and start spewing profanities! Yeah that'll work!

That's a good way to admit you're wrong and don't know what the hell you're talking about, with your "I believe" this and that - you come to this thread and make a long winded post when you're only speculating at that and are unsure of yourself and your claims then you complain when someone responds with a long post like you just made yourself?!

So that makes you a hypocrite.

Typical shameless despicable hypocritical troll filth infesting the Vindictus forums.

I'm glad there's still at least a few smart mature young adults remaining in what's left of the Vindictus community like this gentleman Cloakshire here, was a pleasure to trade thoughts with you brother, respect.

Madcobra wrote: »

I can confirm that 4 precent thing , i bought 200 boxes and got 2 premium weapons runes lol . Good they didnt mentioned there merc recovery potions too .

Please don't encourage this guy "RobertLiva" who might actually be a Nexon employee defending Nexon's deceptive practices lying and stealing money from players.

He thinks spamming the thread with his random pictures will make him more credible and give us more reason to kiss Nexon's ass the way he does no matter how wrong he and Nexon are for what they did. No "RobertLiva", that just makes you look a whole lot more obnoxious and shows how desperate you are for attention and for people to believe you. You're like the people that think yelling and screaming, talking over the other person will make them right lol

We're talking about how Nexon said some gachas were claimed to be "random" but they really weren't and were set up to make it pretty much impossible for you to get certain items from it and this guy goes talking about these 4% gachas here in Nexon NA - "oh, well Nexon NA told us the chances! they said it's 4% chance so you know what you're getting into!" - yeah and they also told us that all these other events would give "random" items and that was A LIE.

If you actually think, watch closely and observe the free events Nexon holds, they make it so any "random" boxes they give out in events give you nothing but junk/trash items and nearly impossible to get anything good. So why in the hell should we believe them when they tell us these gachas that they sell really have a 4% chance to get those valuable items? How do we know that isn't A LIE too? How do we know that they aren't lying about that 4% number just like they lied all the other times in their "random" events and that that number isn't really 2%, 1%, 0.5%?

And there's even more reason for them to lie about that 4% number because money is involved, Nexon NA makes the least amount of money out of all the other regions from Vindictus so it's only even more of a reason for them to lie and have people hoping for that pet or Iset or Succubus outfit that they're spending all this money trying to get not knowing that the rates may have been changed to where you have little to no chance of getting it but lots of money for Nexon right? That's all they care about, that's their main source of income.

The article is about how Nexon put what they called "random" gachas out for sale leading players to believe the PROBABILITY of getting each item was equal (because the definition of the word 'random' is each item in a set having an equal probability of being obtained) but what Nexon really did was make it so certain items only had a 0.5% probability of being obtained while others had a higher probability without even letting players know. And as a result players ended up wasting hundreds of dollars trying to get items that were nearly impossible to obtain.

Nexon NA has done the EXACT same thing with other supposedly "random" boxes like the Mysterious Ice Cube event that we had a couple years ago where you would get "Mysterious" ice cubes for being logged in but in reality they weren't mysterious or "random" at all - the overwhelming majority of players got nothing but AP capsules, almost no one got enhance coupons from those. Why? Because Nexon NA intentionally lowered the probability of obtaining the more valuable items and only wanted people to get AP capsules. But it does get a lot of people online hoping for enhance coupons and other nice items right?

Then they can go tell their investors that they had so many people online, that the game is doing so great and everything is fine. You see how they exploit players like this? They take advantage of the fact that you have that hope to get a good item, thinking it's really "random" then they give you all junk items.

And they've done this MANY times with "random" events - another one is those game board events where you see a dice piece being rolled and visually you see nothing but a dice piece, they mislead you and make you think that it's just a dice piece, the rolls are all random right? But you'll notice that most of the time you will never land on any of the good items on that game board? Why? Because they're exploiting you as a p layer, they know you're hoping to get that good item on the game board so that's the bait to keep you coming back online every day thinking it's all "random" when it's really not - that system will look at what your position is on the game board and 9 times out of 10 will put you on a spot just BEFORE or AFTER the good items on that game board.

Another case with Nexon NA lying and deceiving players is when they have the yearly event where everyone gets enhance coupons from what they claim are "random" boxes. So they say it's "random" right? So how come every single time they run this event NO ONE gets +14 or +15 coupons? How come the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of players just get +10 coupons? But didn't they tell us those boxes gave "random" enhance coupons? No, that's A LIE - they say that to make you HOPE it's really random and that you actually have a fair chance to get a good enhance coupon but what happens? 99% of people get +10 coupons because they lied and it wasn't really "random".

Does this sound "random" to you? No, they rig the events to make it so the odds are against you and that most of the time you will never get any good/valuable items, that isn't random, that's just plain programming the game to make it so you have a HIGH chance to get nothing good and waste your time.

So think about it, if Nexon NA in our case has a pattern of lying, deceiving and misleading players on all these other "random" events like the mysterious ice cube and game board events we had in the past, why should we believe them when they say "oh there is a 4% chance to get this rare item" from the paid gacha boxes? How do we know they aren't lying about that the same way they lied all the other times? How do we know that 4% number isn't really 1%?

I have no reason to put my trust into a game company like Nexon that has a history of lying and deceiving players, I would be a fool to take their word for anything dealing with chance, especially when my money is involved. No, I'm not going to take your word for it when you say that gacha item has a 4% chance because you're probably lying about that too.

You have zero credibility Nexon, there is no reason to trust what they say anymore.

Great info there kosc.

So it looks like this was a change from KR after Rise that Nexon NA never told us about.

If only the other newbies out there had easier access to all this information to help them deal more damage in their raids to avoid this 1% damage penalty.

Because this thread isn't just for me, it's for all the other newbies and weaker players that don't get that 1% damage in Royal Army Raids in time and many of them don't use the forums at all or use it very little and won't get to see this to help them out and avoid this penalty.

MisterWhiskers wrote: »

If you are doing less than 1% in royal raids you might be the problem not the system.That way every freeloader can log 20 chars daily to farm for shards

Emerthyst wrote: »

If they didn't give lower leveled players buffed stats you would have an argument over the 1%. You have to be doing something seriously wrong to not get at least 1% with the lv90-esque stats they give everyone or being a faceplanter.

And to you elitists like "MisterWhiskers" and "Emerthyst" here in this thread that are just so full of yourselves, that choose to insult others just because their gear isn't great and can't do as much damage because they aren't as good as you in the game, your posts are just spam and you contribute nothing of importance to this topic. You only show everyone how much of a s hitty person you are not having a care in the world about those less fortunate than yourself like the newbies who can't deal a whole lot of damage in Royal Army Raids even though they're trying their best. You choose to spit on them just because they can't meet your standards and perform as well as you can. You're such hateful people that you can't even manage to find anything useful or helpful to say when you see someone worse off than you besides "if you can't do that damage you're the problem, you're doing something seriously wrong, it's your fault you have no argument."

Thank you for exposing how much you're terrible, ugly, insecure human beings. Because if you weren't so insecure about yourself and your own personal issues and how bad you really feel about yourself and your own life, you wouldn't be feeling the need to jump at every chance you get to insult others to try and make them feel bad too. You would actually be trying to help like others here in the thread have but you're just too damn insecure about yourselves to do that, you have to throw insults to comfort yourselves about your own personal issues. "Oh I know, I'll try to make this person feel bad too so they can go through what I'm going through then I'll find comfort knowing there's now someone else out there that feels bad like me!" This is the mentality of a bully and very insecure person. It's sad but pathetic and shows how weak minded you are. I hope one day you learn to become actual mature adults like the rest of us and get over your insecurities rather than going around stepping on others to make yourself feel better.