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ikevi wrote: »

I am not focused on just +15.

I'm primarily focused on 14 and 15 because that is the point where reforging begins to surpass any system this game has had prior and gains the most value. I stand by my statement that there is no effective market for +14 and +15 astera weapons (one weapon showing up once in a blue moon is not an effective market) and will not be for a very long time. I've seen a few +13 astera weapons floating around on the MP as well but even that is minuscule supply relative to the demand that you are suggesting.

People can take whatever route they like but it's difficult to deny, imo, that reforging opens up opportunities for players they've never had before - not because they were cost prohibitive, but because they were supply (and RNG) prohibitive.

ikevi wrote: »

But I am just saying that Prototypemind is right. That is the before +11/12/13 guaranteed way was much better for folks without money. Once you do get money it still is better to just buy it.

And then you've come full circle to the fact that there's no market for anything past +13 - there's effectively no market for +13 astera weapons either.

Think about how many +15 items have been sold historically and what kind of players ended up being the buyers - "just buy it" is a nice sentiment but it's completely out of reach for the vast majority of players when it comes to high enhance items. Much further out of reach than reforging items on their own.

Prototypemind wrote: »

The numbers don't lie: it will cost more on average to Reforge than to just buy what you want, period.

The problem is there's no market for what you're suggesting. I don't foresee anybody selling +14 or +15 astera gear for a long, long time. Even finding +13 astera gear (weapons in particular) of your desired type is very difficult - and even if the rare piece does show up on the market, the demand will completely overshadow supply and what you're suggesting will remain unrealistic for the vast majority of players... because let's be honest, rich people are more likely to snipe these items than people who are struggling to fit a few reforges in.

Reforging, in my opinion, is hardly DOA. The pricing may seem a little sketchy but it provides guaranteed returns for time played - unless you're somebody who expects to complete all of your reforging goals in a month or two, the system is perfectly workable. Just look at it as a long term goal.

Also, there are like 55 pages of botted steel on the MP right now with stacks ranging from 1 to 97 (many high stack listings). So tbh availability of steel doesn't seem to be an issue. Availability of gold to buy the steel might be a problem for some players, but that doesn't devalue the reforging system imo.

I suddenly remembered why I stopped posting on these forums. Enjoy the circus.

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