FlufffyParrot

Reading that forum post was very interesting. Someone optimized a map in about 10 minutes. I thought that the reason behind the game's extreme fps lag was gonna be a bit more complicated than that but turns out that its just the devs can't make maps for . (who would have thought?!)

Nexon should probably send their devs to a class teaching them about source engine and how to properly make maps.

If the devs really don't give a flying fu ck about it than maybe someone could make a mod optimizing most played maps (s2 and s3).

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Yeah quite disheartening actually. That guy was able to make immediate improvements to two maps after just a glance at them, and yet on the live servers they continue to have problems.

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I just don't understand why nexon won't fix their fu cking game. Its so frustrating, ITS YOUR GAME, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Its clear that fixing the optimization problem with maps isn't very hard, Nexon just has to stop the bullshit and start working. I would honestly prefer a optimization update over a content update.

(gonna put some slashes in between the quotes cause nexon broke the fking thing)

Vindictus is horribly optimized (not optimized at all). lol

I recently upgraded from an i5 2500k @ 4.5ghz to an i7 4770k @ 4.7ghz.
Literally no change at all to my ability to host raids.

If I have 1-4 people I'm generally okay with rarely any dips below 40fps when I host no matter the raid.
If I have 5-8 people and I'm in Pantheum or Juggernaut or one of the other harsher raids, I'm lucky if I get anything more than a slideshow at 10-25 fps. And in raids that don't crush fps like Havan or Iset I'm lucky if I maintain 40fps. Usually struggling around 30 or 35fps in those.

Also, go to Twilight Desert and host a raid. Go into the dungeons, rotate the camera around. Vindictus renders the dungeon room and the rest of the map.
Kill off the enemies, then keep the fps display on and rotate the screen around. As you get back to viewing the rest of the map and not just the dungeon room the fps drops significantly. When you're no longer facing the rest of the map the fps increases again.

For this reason, I think the fps drops in Vindictus are all because the game renders things that are off-screen and it renders a hell of a lot of them without consideration as to whether or not those objects are in view. My friends and I have a theory about Juggernaut that the fps drops are because the game is rendering all those useless gears turning in the background behind the walls of the cavern you fight in. And for Pantheum it's his cloak effects and all the lava that's probably behind the walls and under the floor.

I remember a while ago that a GM came out and said that so long as you don't virtual box and you have one computer per account logged in you can have multiple characters logged in.

For this reason, it may be beneficial if you are playing with friends and you all agree with it, that you have a separate "host" computer set up. This host computer logs into a dummy account and hosts the raid so it has to bear the burden of all those stupid and pointless renders. You face him away from the action so it doesn't have to render any of that and then you guys can all fight with normal 60fps.

AND if what I remember about the GM saying about multiple computers for different characters logged in holds true.
You wouldn't be playing it, it just logs in, hosts the raid, you join, and then it turns away from the action and sits there.
The rules I recall were that everyone in the raid must be made aware of this and must agree to it. So generally, it's best if you just do it amongst your friends in private raids only. Pubbies that see the host afking despite what you may try and explain will be get annoyed unless the raid ends really quickly each time. ANd hey, you double your drop rate. *shrugs*

I think I posted this in another thread, but I'll repost it here since it proves exactly what you're talking about:

https://forum.nexoneu.com/showthread.php?1497697-Vindictus-Source-Engine-and-Map-optimization

"Vindictus breaks like every single rule you learn when you're taught game design"

Reading that forum post was very interesting. Someone optimized a map in about 10 minutes. I thought that the reason behind the game's extreme fps lag was gonna be a bit more complicated than that but turns out that its just the devs can't make maps for . (who would have thought?!)

Nexon should probably send their devs to a class teaching them about source engine and how to properly make maps.

If the devs really don't give a flying fu ck about it than maybe someone could make a mod optimizing most played maps (s2 and s3).

For me blackcipher isn't really a problem. For me, the biggest problem is the goddamn HUD. it takes away like 20-25 fps. When i hide it i get like 40-50 fps, sadly, i can't play without it since i need the hud to cast spell as Evie so i get garbage fps. I'm pretty sure that the HUD shouldn't make you lag like that. If i could get a constant 50-60 fps i would enjoy this game so much more. We need an optimization update.

graveyard ship with hud : 20-25 fps
without hud : 40-45

I also read that this game doesn't use multi processing correctly, so everyone with a processor that uses multiple cores just suffer a lot. If its true then fixing that issue would be a great start.