FlameSama1

You can one-shot pretty much every raid boss under S3, and then the game makes you wait two minutes because you killed them too quickly, and THEN they have events going that are based on you getting drops from bosses. So I'm AFK in a Colru run right now because my guildie throws out one attack and then we have to wait two or three minutes to do it again for another heart or whatever.

Wow, they pretty thoroughly ruined this game. Most drops aren't worth anything anymore (where before I was selling magic powders for a good 50k or so on East), there's zero challenge outside of Neam and Ein Lacher, and all seemingly to pander to 'new player' who don't exist lmao.

My guildie has been playing since closed beta and she's about done with this game because they just couldn't leave well enough alone.

탱크블레이드 wrote: »

I don't really see how dumping money into your character will help when literally the ONLY thing NX wise that would help is NX equipment like Cadet Badge and what not. Unless you mean gold buying well then that's the players own fault for giving into temptation for buying gold. You can't use GG's or anything else. So there's really no way paying real money would help you even in the slightest. You can have 18k def and 30k att and still get destroyed. This raid isn't about stats alone. It's legit about having the skill to back your stats. So if you don't have the skills to back your stats then you need to keep practicing. As you have seen people beat the raid then you should understand it takes practice.

Because if your stats aren't inflated with scrolls and high level armor/weapon/enchant/enhancements you're basically completely useless in this. And those people buy plenty of runes and other NX items to get gear that's considered 'decent' for this raid. I had to use a couple runes to get even close to the recommended 24k att/200 bal+crit/50 att spd and I'm still not absolutely at that level. I started off with level 80 gear that was pretty good but basically made me feel like I was made out of tissue paper for this and this alone.

As far as 'practice', see below.

Atherion wrote: »

One of the best players I've ran with is a staff evie and far from pay2win running around with less than 10k defense and around 40spd. Yet they are the one who usually lasts the longest and can literally 1 man p3 till the revive timer expires for other party members.

This raid is the single most enjoyable thing to come out of Vindictus for me in years and really separates the skilled from those who think they are all that just cause they get top deeps in raids with their stims and merc pots c:.

I REALLY don't see it. Playing this I go back and forth between hyped and extremely annoyed. And of the people I know IRL who play this, I'm the only one who can even come remotely close to finishing. If they continue like this, I think we're gonna just move on.

Nice anecdote there about the Evie. I've been in roughly 40 parties now, most of them with some pretty good players and they all eventually ended because of cheap OHKOs or they got stunlocked comboed into oblivion. Yeah I've seen Hurks putting in solo work on phase 3, but that's in-between attempts where we just get ground down. Roughly 40 runs of this and I don't feel I gained any knowledge in my last run I didn't have in run 20 or run 10. Anything difficult I don't get a chance to work on and all the stuff prior to that I have pretty downpat except for the occasional mistake or when the game decides to screw me.

I can appreciate difficulty, dodging Gates is difficult and I'm still working on that. I'm talking about how long it takes, even with a good party and good DPS, to get to something you haven't already spent tons of effort on. It's hard to practice attack patterns when you have to sit through a half hour of samey grind just to get a shot at it. And that's when the game isn't just outright trying to cheat you by having Neimhain's electric ball invisible because she's hiding inside of Neam's body or when the AOE circles aren't quite honest about where you can safely stand. And that's without bringing up the third phase with is just phase 2 with a few token instant kill attacks thrown in because they ran out of ideas at that point.

I'm gonna keep trying until either I beat this or I just run out of ambition, then I'm done.

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