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So what about TIR Coins/NX selling?
We've presented the issue... and a lot of time has passed since then:
LINKSo what is the situation? I think you've had enough time to give us some answers... did you make anything to help our playerbase survive according to this issue that you have created when taking TIR Coins away from us?
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good job nexon +best
also i dont know what tir coin does, i assume its the same as nx
Tir coin could be utilized like NX but only on very specific items on the NX Marketplace, mostly cosmetics.
So here is a clarification to fill up the holes in your knowledge mate. We're not some attachment, we're equal to you, we are customers same as you.
The merge of services isn't 'NA saving EU'... we weren't 'dying' for one thing. Nexon simply decided to merge these two companies into single 'Nexon Global' in purpose to increase efficiency (personally i don't know why they've waited so long... since we both use English version of game). So no, it's no longer Nexon NA or Vindictus NA... it is Nexon Global which includes same EU as NA on equal terms (at least it should be that way).
The only thing is, that it's the old Nexon NA team which was given responsibilities to manage this new company... that's all. This obviously is causing issues in many players perception about EU playerbase, which makes them treat us as 'worse'. The issue is also due to the fact that Nexon NA team is biased mainly towards NA playerbase... because well, we're 'in here' new (new to them).
Another thing i would like to teach you, is to talk only for yourself... since there are many players from NA who would love to have TIR Coin system, plus 100% population of EU (we have literally no one against TIR Coins, everybody wants to get it back - which you can check on our forum surveys).
Something like ^this happens rarely... when a feature is literally accepted by a 100% of exact population. We've tried it, experienced its effects - and we love it. Altogether with EU+NA, there is majority of people in favour of TIR Coins, rather than against (while most of NA playerbased doesn't even know about TIR Coins existence, or aren't enough/properly 'educated' about it). Maybe if Nexon NA team would be a little more objective, they would listen to the 'voice of reason' and do the right thing.
Some clarifications:
Gacha boxes aren't 'the alternative' for TIR Coins.
First thing is that they don't replace functionality and purpose of TIR Coins. With TIR Coins it is possible to eliminate gold sellers/bots from server completely. This follows with removing inflation and makes the game overall better. Plus players receive the items they want for equal and fair calculation of gold (since you buy the currency, and not the items for which sellers may put price depending on situation). With TIR Coins, gold sellers lose customers, up to the point when they end up with none, since players receive much better alternative of receiving gold in game. With TIR Coins they can purchase and sell their NX currency any time they need, and in any amounts they need... while with gacha boxes you need event first (which doesn't happen all the time), then depending on luck you either get more or less, you either get items that can be sold easier or it can take a really long time, etc. etc.
Overall, gacha doesn't function as TIR Coins system at all, which makes it often not attractive, or not available 'when someone needs it' and therefore it doesn't remove gold sellers from the server... neither is fair way of exchanging goods. Additionally you can't get avatars/inner/hairs/etc. from shop with gacha.
In general gacha boxes are a lot worse system than TIR Coins... or rather, they won't work as 'replacement' for TIR Coins, since the functionality of it is different.
Please keep the topic on track and don't make things personal.
If you feel targeted please report the posts.
P.S since this seems like a case of miscommunication I suggest using the message system to clear things up outside the thread.
OFC it's still Nexon's call, I'm not saying they should or should not put TIR Coin into the game.
If you don't take my word for it, take the official info:
The migration is just a process made in purpose to improve their service quality, for example (in case of Vindictus):
1. Having single client to maintain + single version of game instead of two (Premiere), so then you have less bug reports to take care off, less suggestions, less of anything because everything is at one place and both communities use the same thing.
2. Single team to co-operate better
3. Having both services 'in one place' merged together which makes the managing easier in general
(i could've add more details, but i think it's pretty obvious)
It just happens to be, that they've decided to reside in Nexon NA offices, that's all. EU brings earnings basically same as NA, it's not like they can't pay for EU employees. The migration applies to all games and not just Vindictus, from which for example Maplestory is very successful... so yeah, what you say doesn't make any sense. Also we have official info proving you wrong... so there is that. False info nr.2
As mentioned previously, no. Gacha boxes don't work as 'alternative' to TIR Coins. They lack key parts of TIR Coins system which make it much better feature and helps in other things better, like getting rid of gold sellers/inflation, getting avatar/inner/etc. items... also Gacha don't translate gold value directly from NX, therefore making the trades unstable in terms of economy and fair exchange. I've explained everything in previous post basically.
Gacha boxes are a nice addition, but they are not a 'replacement' for TIR Coins. They could just keep both for wider functionality and better service. False info nr.3
TIR Coin system was successful in EU. It helped to get rid of the gold selling, and there are tons of people investing money into this game either to get NX items or just to sell NX/TIR value to other players. Many players used it to get avatar items, and since like 'half' of people play this game for avatars xD, it made the game much more enjoyable to them. You don't even play in EU, so what can you know - yes, nothing. False info nr.4
Well sure, being able to get gold via 'selling NX' makes people to be able to progress faster... but wait, you can do that on your server as well by getting gold from gold sellers or even Gacha boxes... heck isn't this game P2W anyway? Ah right... because Enchant and Enhancement Runes don't speed up your process, or wait... do they xDD? Naah... NX items don't make the game easier and faster, otherwise people would spend real money on NX, oh wait - THEY DO. False info nr.5
Please answer few questions:
1. Do people complain on gold sellers/bots in NA?
2. Did prices increase dramatically due to inflation in NA over the years?
3. Do people buy gold from gold sellers in NA?
Well, the answers are pretty obvious so i will just answer them right away ^^:
1. Yes - i've seen tons of complaints on your forums.
2. Yes - comparatively it's at least 10:1 of EU gold value (and it's getting more all the time due to ongoing inflation).
3. Yes - even tho i don't even speak with many NA players, i've already meet few people from your server who admitted that they buy gold from gold sellers and that GMs don't do anything with it and it's basically safe.
In EU comparatively, we have none of it.
1. People don't see any bots or advertisements - they are nonexistent.
2. Gold value is basically stable, same as always - there is no inflation.
3. I've meet tons of people in EU, and none of them is buying any gold from gold sellers, because they have better alternative in game - which is safe, legal, and even more profitable.
As for 'gold websites' on the internet, yeah there are some sellers apparently... but basically no one is using them. Possibly they have some gold left from the time when gold sellers still existed in EU, and they just put it as available in case someone decides to buy (which doesn't happen basically). I'm not the one spreading 'false information to the public'. Opposite to you, i actually have proofs on what i say. Keep dreaming.
There would be no difference in effectiveness of TIR Coins between EU and NA servers, because even tho you have much more gold on your server due to inflation, it's not the amount of gold that is bad... but the ongoing inflation (constant lowering value of the currency).
Same as in EU server let's say you could earn for example 500k/hour approx, and you pay 1:1000 for TIRs... on server where gold has lower value (like yours), it would simply be scaled... meaning that for example if you have 10x lowered value of gold, then let's say you earn 5kk/hour and you would pay 1:10000 for TIRs. The value is essentially the same and nothing changes - therefore it would work as effective as on our server.
Essentially it's about 'how much players can offer' versus 'how much gold sellers can offer'.
If players can offer more than gold sellers - then gold sellers have to offer more as well. Then again, and again... until at some point it simply stops to be profitable for one of them - in case of Vindictus it would be gold sellers, so they would become not attractive as a source of gold and therefore lead towards their 'extinction'. No more gold would be added from outside of the market circulation system, because TIRs would be paid with gold within that system - inflation stops, done.
After that if GMs would like to increase the old value of gold on the server, they could even introduce some gold-sink events, and since there would be no more ongoing inflation - their efforts would have a permanent effect.
So yes, the fact that it works on EU means it would work in NA as well, because it's basically the same game with the same systems. Bringing BnS here as example 'argument' isn't viable at all, because it's totally different game.
You have no viable arguments mate.
No worries, nothing 'blows up' in here. We're just making sure that you won't forget about our case since it's important for us ^^.
I hope that migration goes smoothly and that after, you will find some time to properly reconsider your decision regarding TIR Coins.
Meanwhile, we'll just spread the word to make sure that people won't forget ^^, or those who don't know yet will get to know.
Your point fell off by its own weight. Try again next time with something more valid.