Atherion

MmmBacon wrote: »

3 days later and nothing, im not surprised tbh pretty hard to do w/o a damage pot eh? xd

Unfortunately, nobody kept the recordings of our previous runs. However I was able to get the crew together tonight for 2 back to back sessions just for you. No need to feel too special for the effort spent was minimal.

run 1 - 0:15 - 1:46

run 2 - 2:24 - 4:00


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Bowtacojr wrote: »

LynnCUBE wrote: »

Mainichi wrote: »

No offense, but you should just stick to translations.

I would love to just translate and bring some opinions from KR, but there's always some people screaming "WRRROOOOONNNGGG! I KNOW BETTER THAN THOSE KOREANS ALTHOUGH I HAVEN'T SPENT HOURS TRYING TO ANALYSE MY CHARACTER LIKE THEY DID" so I have to justify for the claims I make.

And was I wrong somewhere? Please tell me. Really no other meaning, I would like to know where I could have made a mistake so I can fix or reevaluate.

Your translations looked fine, I think they're just a salty Karok player or something angry at your opinions.

I like hearing about what the Koreans are doing, so by all means keep it coming.

Oh look, someone with nothing of importance to say C:

Cloakshire wrote: »

Atherion wrote: »

I don’t even. If that’s how Krs playing Cestus Karok, they’ve been doing it wrong for the past 2 years since his revamp.

Instead of just saying that KR's been playing Karok wrong for the past two years, why not back up that claim with some credibility. LynnCUBE said that if you believe something to be wrong, point it out in detail instead of just making an empty claim.

MisterWhiskers wrote: »

who would you trust? a big playerbase/community that analyzes data and character performances or some old farts from NA/EU who have +15s /maxed gear and only get top DPS because there's nobody around with better gear so according to them their class is the absolute best

+1

It takes 10s to look up a Cestus revamp guide by Stroongright on youtube. No need for me to explain the basics of a class to someone who probably doesn’t even main the character. Seriously, LynnCUBE replied to Volterix's post by listing the LITERAL FUNDAMENTALS of Cestus Karok which all Cestus Players, even those at the most basic level should know. And pretty sure when the source screws up the basic dps rotation, it loses most, if not all credibility (this is coming from someone who mains a Karok btw).

But since you asked so "nicely" for a correction to his initial post, I'll give everyone a short version of how to actually play the class.

There aren't 2 playstyles for Cestus Karok, either you are following the rotation of Cataclysm, or you are not. You should ALWAYS Gigantic Strength near the end of your Cataclysm cooldown to bigbang as it essentially gives you 6 blast charges (max out all blast charge buffs, and puts you at level 3 charge). In the time it takes to generate 6 blast charges without Gigantic Strength, the other guy would have gotten many more double blasts off, gotten the 2 bars of sp required for Gigantic Strength and still have the opportunity to BigBang before Cataclysm runs out putting you in overflow. After the Bigbang, he has the opportunity to proc a stamina regen passive which is only possible while the Gigantic Strength active is still in effect. The only playstyle difference would be going the extra mile and keeping up infinite crits which is dependent on how low your crit is (which shouldn't be considered if you crit cap). Even that wouldn't change his dps rotation in his most damaging phase when Cataclysm is active, as the goal is up get as many double blasts off (preferably the strong blast from 3rd and 4th smash), not refreshing your crit buff after each blast.

When you skip your cataclysm rotations because it puts a 10s cd on blast, you are doing something VERY WRONG regardless of boss scenario.

And I’d rather trust a person who I frequently play with knowing they spent hundreds to thousands of hours playing the character than what someone 6000 miles away wrote, especially if they can't even get the basics right. It doesn't take a genius to look or compare multipliers of classes and have an idea of what to do in order to get the most efficiency.

But hurrr durr Koreans are the best at everything, there is no way dumb North Americans can figure out a simple dps rotation.

EnigmaTaro wrote: »

I remember KR did that for experiment on the evil one with gif of pillar Karok, gun kai and sword lann. Its literally watching 1 rabbit vs 2 snails.

The sprinting mechanics post rise was meant to address the gap in character mobility, but you don't get invulnerability frame doing that.

The speed at which Pillar Karok rolls at is pretty ludicrous, and I'm pretty sure it scales with atk speed as well.

Also:



I was bored enough to give my suggestion a go. ~9.5 secs from one end to black screen

Just think of all pre-lvl 90 content as a tutorial since difficulty spikes up quite a bit once you unlock s3 raids.

I personally disliked how instead of making early content relevant, it got streamlined and had all difficulty removed. Really lazy way to address the problems of new players getting stuck on outdated content because none of the veterans are given incentive to run with the newbies.