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Don't take it as insult I just want to point out that most of comments of pre players are like "stop this cancerous XE from spreading" while those who played XE are trying to suggest improvement since they know the pros and cons of XE/PRE now.
except some EU players are so biased about their precious XE and claming false fact about Pre and completely ignoring their own problems.
KuF2 is one of the best example while you can have hack and slash mmo with deeper in gameplay (with some RTS), and infact, it relies on strategy more than the hack and slash part to complete hard dungeon. It's also has some parts considered open-world for quests (some quests you dont need to go to dungeons, just kill mobs outside the towns). Only bad side of that game is p2w for troops from gachapon, and bad ported pc version, hope it will be fixed in NA version.
Vindi can take it as a reference.