Cloakshire

ByteStix wrote: »

Goatanks wrote: »

How do rate this game 1.5 stars for PvP/PvE and Story Content when you can't even get past level 20?

Easy, because from what I experienced, that's what I felt it deserved. Yes, neither Wiggy and I, nor my wife and I have ever made it beyond level 40. MMO reviews are very different to movie reviews, or reviews of video games that can be finished in 20-30 hours. MMOs often take hundreds to fully experience everything, and by that logic, wouldn't really ever be possible to fully rate, considering so many have populations so minuscule that experiencing the content is virtually impossible. While the written review on the website features an ending review of the game based off of 40 levels of experience, the video does not, and is there for my viewers to enjoy.

So let me get this straight. You've been playing the game on and off for two years and you haven't been able to reach past level 40? I agree that MMO reviews are very different from movies and other games, but not every MMO is going to be the same. You stated that a video game can be finished in 20-30 hours whereas MMO's often take hundreds. Well NEWS FLASH, you can reach Vindictus's level cap in under 20 hours. Blackstoryz hosted a 17 hour stream where he took his Miri from level 1-95 solo. If you're playing together with your wife, ya'll should be able to get it done even faster.

Now that 17 hours is on record as the time needed to take a character to level cap, let me compare that to your two years playing the game on an off. Two years x2 is 730 days which when multiplied by 12 gives you 8,760 hours. I know there's 24 hours in a day, but I'm only calculating 12 because sleep is a thing.
Playing Vin to level cap would have only taken 0.194% of your total available time of 8700 hours. If you could reach level cap, you could quickly experience what the endgame scene has to offer within another 5-10 hours. You make it sound like Vindictus is some long grind to cap, but it's not.

ByteStix wrote: »

Goatanks wrote: »

So you're not even going to try to progress throughout the game? You haven't even unlocked story quests for Dark Knight or Paladin.

See above. Video is not a review. Video is impressions-based.

Translation: I don't wanna answer that question.

ByteStix wrote: »

Goatanks wrote: »

You're either Fking retarded or you're just trolling us. Is this fun for you? Do you like it when people rip on you for being a dumb liar?

Actually, yes, this is quite hilarious to me. People cussing, name calling, and showing how ridiculously childish they are by flaming instead of offering constructive criticism has always been highly entertaining. So thank you to the couple of you that have. You're a step above the rest of the people here getting all pissy. :^)

And yet you haven't responded to most of the constructive critique you've been offered. From what I've seen you've mostly been trying to defend yourself or engage in little back n' forths with the one's that are not happy with you. I don't really see you addressing my points made on the first page where I called you out for assuming the majority by speaking on behalf of the playerbase. Part of the process is to comment on what we say and then suggest possible changes YOU can make. We'll then reply with further comments with either disagreement or further suggestions.

ByteStix wrote: »

Cloakshire wrote: »

Orly now?

Whoops! I guess "in 2018" should have been added on to the end of that.

That still doesn't fix the contradiction. You stated that this was your wife's impression but in a prior post you stated that it was yours. Adding "in 2018," doesn't fix your slip up. So which is it MrStix?

ByteStix wrote: »

At the end of the day, my viewers enjoyed watching me mess around for a few hours as a newbie, and that's really what counts.

Translation: At the end of the day, my video got views which got me paid, and that's really what counts. :rollseyes:

Sir_Render wrote: »

Still haven't gotten a +13 or higher since the Bravery shop update

It isn't a matter of Patience it's a matter of Luck

If you're only shooting for +13 on a lvl 90 weapon, then it's only a matter of patience. If you're going for +14 or using a level 95, then yeah, it's luck.

Cloakshire wrote: »

LoyalCasher wrote: »

Unique does not equate to good. This set also utilizes regular armors from the game but as everyone can see, it's aesthetically displeasing.

Tis a matter of opinion.

LoyalCasher wrote: »

Cloakshire wrote: »

Ahahahahahahahaha, it looks like someone doesn't know what they're talking about.

Tis also a matter of opinion.

I guess I did set myself up for that one. You win this round XD

So many points. I will say that regarding some of our exchanges, I feel like they've reached a conclusion so I'll only be replying to those I still have something to say about.

Drachus wrote: »

I can agree on one thing, were there too many forum threads complaining about the game dying? 100%, it all could've been fit into one thread. But let me ask you this... When did ANY of the Nexon staff address these things? I mean, even if people are complaining there were legitimate suggestions in those threads and none of those are addressed. Another thing, there is no staff to moderate these forums (which is why I support SirRFI being a mod here). Things are going out of control. The community has been kept in the dark for so long with so many things, which is why I understand people that are causing commotions over this topic.

I'm glad to see someone else that agrees on the fact that there were too many of those threads. I also agree that it's a terrible thing that we got no word from Nexon nor any forum staff. This is precisely why I said that "It's obvious our suggestions aren't taken seriously, so with that in mind the game is in our hands. The question is what are we going to do with it?"

Drachus wrote: »

I've played Allods Online, Forsaken World, DCU and many many more. Trust me, I know how P2W games can be and I understand that Vindictus is not close to their caliber but it doesn't change that cashers still have quite a significant advantage over regular players. But well, I'm not gonna stick to this topic much because I'm pretty low on time and there are others things which I want to address.

I was kind of hesitant to make that remark about P2W because I feel like that would open up the door for people to go off on a tangent & derail this thread. With that in mind, thank you for keeping that part brief despite the fact that you probably have much more to say. We can save that for another thread on another day.

Drachus wrote: »

I'm actually curious if there were any suggestions made on our forums that made any sort of impact on the game. I've been playing Vindi for over 4 years with breaks (started in 2012) and I can't recall any.

Look, I'm sorry if I wasn't clear on what I mean in my initial post. I've had to clarify this for three people now, so let me briefly explain what I mean by the power we have. I'm not talking about our power in terms of suggestions we make having an impact. What I'm referring to is the direct correlation between the community's size and revenue made. We can influence our community's size and in turn, potentially create more opportunities for revenue. More revenue equals a longer remaining life. In that regard, we do hold some power in terms of Vin's remaining lifespan.

Drachus wrote: »

If so many people that leave an MMO after such a period of time that is a big concern. There must be a reason why they left and I doubt that they'd suggest a game to someone while explaining their reason why they left and putting a higher impact on that than the actual gameplay.

I agree that if many new people leave after a short period of play, there's a huge concern that needs to be addressed, but we're not talking about a bunch of people leaving. This was an initial point of whether or not you'd recommend someone to which you said no on the basis that they may leave soon. I still disagree and think that while there may be a lot of misses, there's always a chance to land a hit and find someone that wants to stay and actually does stay. That chance alone is worth the recommendation in my eyes.

Drachus wrote: »

The gearing system is bullshit because it makes players feel **** about themselves. You can't tell me that it isn't a slap in the face when someone tries their first weapon and it goes to +15 and you tried more than 50 weapons and none of them went above +13*. And no you won't be happy with a +13 lv90 weapon and +8 armor because you are gonna feel **** in raids because you will lack the power to contribute in any way.

I'll answer the first point with one statement. It's only a slap in the face if you're worried about what other people have.

Also, whether or not someone will be happy with +13 lvl 90 weapon & +8 armor is purely subjective. I personally have a +6 to +8 armor set with a +13 weapon and I'm content with what I have as well as my performance in raids. My stats are 40.2k Power (25.6k ATT/14.6K DEF) and 202 Tech (90 Bal/111 Crit). Typically in raids, I'll be in either 2nd or 3rd, but when there's a whale or two in the party, I'm gonna be last with ~14%. But you know what? I'm okay with that because in my eyes, damage is still damage. If the party wiped when the boss had 14% hp left, then the 14% I would have dealt makes a difference. Sometimes I get 1st place in raids and it feels so much sweeter because I'm not fully geared, but yet I still beat people with both more ATT and more Additional damage than me. So while I lack power, I can still contribute.

Drachus wrote: »

Now, this is part where I really want to be as nice as possible. Personally, this doesn't affect me at all as I've never spent any sort of money on this game, but saying that people are idiots for financially supporting the game and then being flipped off... I'm sorry but this argument is so broken that I don't even know how to respond to it.

I don't know why but I get this odd sense that you gritted your teeth reading what I said about people buying gachas. I'm sorry, but that's just the way I view gambling in general. I think that people who buy lottery tickets & go to casinos are..... making an obviously bad choice. That's a nicer way to put it, but I feel the same way about people that buy gachas. I may have indirectly called people idiots for financially supporting the game, but that wasn't my intent so I do apologize. I called them that purely for the act of buying a gacha (gambling). There's nothing wrong with supporting the game financially, but there's other ways to do so. Buy outfitters, dyes, or other items that don't involve gambling. I realize that my view on this is bias because of my take on gambling as a whole so take this part with that in mind.

Drachus wrote: »

*Personally I've had huge luck with RNG in this game. I made 3 +14s from 3 weapons that I've tried on my Vella. My problem with the gear progression is that most of your enhance progress depends purely on luck which is pushing people away when they see others succeed and themselves failing. Another thing, just because +13 weap and +8 gear makes a raid playable doesn't mean that it's enjoyable.

Going off of what I mentioned earlier in this reply, whether or not raid play is enjoyable with a +13 weapon / +8 gear is subjective.

Drachus wrote: »

My reply isn't as aesthetic and there are probably a lot of mistakes, but sadly I'm too short on time to correct it.

Still, the reply overall was well made and kept our dialogue going which I appreciate. Thank you for taking the time.