Dear Nexon,
you had me as true fan of this game. I always tried to defend it and that it's still good. Until today. You gotta be fcking kidding.
I wanted to keep on playing this more and more dying game.
But I can't, even if I wanted to. And why? Because my Lvl 80 Rings were actually pretty fine for me. I mean I was rank 4 wearing them and the cost of them seemed useless to me. But I got fcked.
Without them newest ones, I'm pretty sure I won't be able to continue the storyline since this countersh't was released.
It started with restrictions at Dullahan which fcked up a lot a ppl I knew back then and who quitted in the following.
But isn't it ridiculous that a rank 4 Sylas can't join newest battles because he needs the newest sh*t all of a sudden?
Of course you can argue with "Just buy them". Too bad I got barely time to play cuz rl thingies and it would take me like 3 months to grind enough money to be able to afford them. Even harder now since obvious bots are being placed in market place to reduce money gaining. Don't take us as fools.
Yes, I'm angry. And frustrated. I've been playing our Hagies with my boyfriend for nearly 3 years nearly everyday. Even if this game got more and more greedier and our luck constantly dropped (hardly +12 gear and no worthy drops in months fml), we kept on playing because it was "our thing, both our cuties".
But when even the most loyal ones are confronted with a "hahahahahaha... NO." update, it ends.
And I bet it will get worse. So I'm seriously having thoughts if it's worth my precious time.
I appreciate if somebody read so far, but I needed to tell what's going on inside my head.
I'm not sure how to keep going. As being said, I wanted to, but the game doesn't want me to.
I'll never really quit I guess because those two Hagies got a special place inside my heart as a part of my relationship with my love (I know it's weird and I don't expect anyone to understand).
But I'll never have nice words left for that game and its owners.
I always hoped that when I'll quit, I'll do it by my own will, but not because I'm forced to.
Notice that this is meant as constructive criticism of a frustrated player, so please take it as such.
Good luck and fun for those who have the time and money to be worth playing. o/
PS: We couldn't even charge NX lately (10bucks for guild storage) because it's bugged for some reason and we were not able to pay by paysafecard no matter how hard we tried, so this also ain't an option anymore.
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I think that introducing counterforce should have been held off until season 4.
Because it's easier to bind people to the game by adding/changing the values of certain numbers (stats) than creating enjoyable content. Same story was with Limit release, then add dmg (on rise) and now counterforce. Surprised they didn't decide to keep that damage reflect stat but even they realized how stupid the thought behind it is. More value is being placed on stats then on self-improving (which is understandable to a certain degree but not this much).
On the other hand in response to Aibou. It's unfortunate that you're quitting, but then again.. I don't blame you as I quit long time ago due to somewhat similar reasons. But well, thanks for making Neam less boring for me with all the banter xD
-Dual
I enhanced my accessories so I was able to do it via quick battle, but I am curious how much your damage is reduced if you're lacking CF. Is the fight even feasible?
So to answer a question asked earlier in the thread, your CF does seem to effect how much damage you do.
BUT if you just want to get on the boat the kitty's encouragement potion is a godsend.
Also rings seem to add more CF per enhance level than anything else. Even though THEY ALL COST THE SAME THING TO ENHANCE. So if you have your pick between enhancing a ring or your belt, go with your ring.
This game has many things that lead people to quit not just this one. But your reason is what I don't like.
First, I say again we re playing in EU, and we have bots but the price isn't affordable like what you wrote.
Second, the items for Int char is always cheaper than Str chars. And you said you re top 4 but can't make new rings even you have played every day. No I dont mean 24/24, but even my friend plays only 2-3 hours/day. He still can make these rings and now can enhance them.
Third, the content was released at Korea few months ago. It means if you have come to forum and spent 10 minutes at Future content, You should have known these things. But I think the reason is here that you wouldn't want to change even if you knew. Why would I do this when these rings still can be served me well? And that why people quit long time ago after Rise. They choose to leave/quit instead of adapting the changes.
Before Rise, my 80+15 weapon was still good that I didn't need to look at 90 weapon. But thing changed when Rise came. The new Add damage, the new cap att, crit, att limit ...etc that forced me to start building my set again. At this time, I could choose as you did now or step forward.
And what I write here not to keep you stay in this game, but to share my thought. That the real reason you leave/quit the game that you feel frustrated and busy in real life then it's ok. But not like a top 4 Sylas cant continue the game because of a stat that introduced long time ago!
That's an option we tried, but we didn't do any dmg, probably without counterforce.
I fully understand your arguments there. And yes, maybe you're right. I'm just too tired when getting to work at 8am and coming home at 9pm to check new forum posts. Maybe your friend you mentioned has simply more luck than me because I have serious problems gaining money over the past year. Apart from that I got about 30mins at such days, ~2hrs on free days.
Actually I'm a fan of changes, but not when it's continuing to be bad ones. And ofc when I'm forced to even if I'm fine with how it was.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not giving a fck about ranking anymore, it was just a way to underline how ridiculous counterforce restriction is.
And something very important I forgot to mention: I would have to get them rings and stats for TWO chars since I want to play with my boyfriend and he can't afford the needed stats (about 100mil only enhancing as i read). And he's pissed of this all, too.
And besides of that there's also that thing with returners getting so much more than active players only on our servers, which didn't really change my mind.
So to assume, yes, I'm tired. Tired and frustrated. And I'm missing time to keep on being updated. After all, I only played this game to spend some time with my bf who's not with me everyday. It was so much fun back then, but now it's pure struggling.
As for CF stacking 100m can be farmed within a reasonable time which should average at about 2 months doing nothing but s2.
As a reference, I did one claire run on release day with me (arisha) having 32k ATT 3600 ADD 350 ALR (neamhain buff) and 32 CF. My team members all had 0 CF and 2 with 32k (karok and scythe iirc), 1 with 28k ATT (db vella). It took us 45 mins, and some graces to finish.
Getting new content is fine, making it more difficult with higher stats requirements is ok too. But imo this counterforce thing is just an another nexon scam - they just punish players that play normally without any cheats with this huge mats/goldsink.
If I havn't been saving mats and gold for about a year now I wouldn't be able to enhance accs and I still have my favourite event lvl 80 ring that can't be enhanced and replacing it would be like getting new +13 dulla weapon (enchants for rings are hella expesive/rare - havn't got The dead es since rise update- and after this update even rings prices went up).
They could have enabled enhancing all accs (with less cost and less cf gain) so normal player can rly progress.
Nexon created another hole between endgame players and new/progressing players so endgame players will gain even more money while it will take progressing player double/triple the time to get to endgame (I hope new players like grinding since all of the things they get will be underpriced since endgame player can farm it 2x faster even going solo).
I totally understand Aibou: If they want to duo the new raids and they only got old lvl 80 rings - changing both rings (enchants + infu) and enhancing them to +20 to deal some dmg in new raid would cost about the price of +15 dulla weapon in EU (if they had mats then 2x new unenchanted rings +15 would be about the price of +12 weapon, but if you don't have mats saved then no chance)
And the materials for frozen rings have skyrocketed to a whole new level. The dullahan's essence is worth more than 50m
Since the +12 free gear allows you to meet requirements to Quick Battle Dullahan, hopefully the returning players will be able to help deflate those prices.
You go around with Dark Wizard set which cost over 200kk and you cry around cause you can't change a couple of rings (cuz no money) that after the update are even for free thanks to the new seal shop? Please...
You mean the 120kk me and my bf gathered in half a year or more of playtime?
Seems like you didn't read anything otherwise you'd know that I didn't know about the necessarity of those rings and that they were completely fine for me.
If I knew, I maybe thought twice about buying.
I can't check the seal shop since I won't log in for at least 30 days, but something tells me chunks and essences ain't "for free" but maybe tons of seals now, but feel free to prove me I'm wrong.
Then gift me 50kk for Scrolls and 100kk for enhancing and make it twice for my boyfriend, thank you.
many has come n go
the biggest wave of vini players leavin was s2 introduction with the silly stat wall of 15k to beat kraken when most have +10 lv 70 yielding 12-13k
s3 introduction of higher and higher stats making ppl feel sad about their 1 BIl gold investment on s2 gear being completely overrun by s3 gear
rise update being another contender of updates being punishing on those who was content with their +15 weapons
and now leaves us to this update which just absolutely requires 3 aspect which the majority of player base cannot obtain
-gold -rng -materials
gold due to the 0 value of drop in s3 raids because of the bots (10m avg) when the gold required to get +20 accessory for 80 CF is roughly 50m a pop
materials being cloth ore and leather and MAYBE the dulla drop + the chunk cus SOME PPL was happy with their lv 80 rings with +2 crit infusion which was deem more worth than a dinky +1crit and 10str or int bonus from lv 90 rings
and RNG cus lets face it enhancement rate to get to acc +20 isnt so great and very costly
thus this giant stat wall of CF being the main factor of separating those who play vini with acceptable gear stat and those who have all the money with the highest end game already to boot will now separate them even more since those who are already on the top end game list are the only ones able to run the new content
so OP my dear friend as a vini player who been here since beta and saw it all, you are rite this is absurd, and many more will follow ur footsteps
to all who continues to play god spd, i bless you and hope you will be able to catchup without too many pain