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what i think is OP wants to know which classes are "able to solo every content" then sword fiona, scythe evie, arisha and sword vella are in my mind, since they can solo Neamhain means they can solo everything else.
what i think is OP wants to know which classes are "able to solo every content" then sword fiona, scythe evie, arisha and sword vella are in my mind, since they can solo Neamhain means they can solo everything else.
Staff Evie and Chainblade Vella have also soloed Neamhain.
She's not as good as Fiona or Vella, but she's good and she's safe.
I play both scythe and staff, both Fiona and Vella. Staff is simply subpar compared to those classes. Even though staff is heavy hitter when crits are on your side she's super slow at dishing out that damage because spells need to be charged and it takes time even with ~60-70 speed. In the meantime Fiona/Vella could just counter/xcut bosses' attacks and get good chunks of their health while you're still charging spell. Oh, and the best thing about staff - try to cast homing spells on uneven terrain. 50% of them will miss because fu*k you.
Staff's only saving grace is flying sparrow which basically covers the same distance double blink does.
what i think is OP wants to know which classes are "able to solo every content" then sword fiona, scythe evie, arisha and sword vella are in my mind, since they can solo Neamhain means they can solo everything else.
Staff Evie and Chainblade Vella have also soloed Neamhain.
i haven't updated about them though, mind sharing some vids?
Staff Evie and Chainblade Vella have also soloed Neamhain.
i haven't updated about them though, mind sharing some vids?
Staff:
Chain:
Tbh the thing with Neamhain seems to be more about having 2800 unlimited ATT, Damage Reflect and min-maxed gear (a.k.a being a statbag\steroids). I'm pretty sure that every class with these ridiculous stats could solo Neamhain (maybe aside from Bow, Pillar, Hammer and Lynn).
Sword Fiona is the only class I know that didn't have ridiculous stats when soloing Neamhain. The rest had 2500+ unlimited ATT, +15 and Damage Reflect.
As far as farming regular non-raid maps.. Scythe is by far the best there is. Inane mobility and excellent trash clear speed to cut through the map.
Arisha and TS vella are the worst at these farm maps. Poor movement speed and god awful at clearing s3 trash.
Regarding neam, I'm pretty sure you don't need maxed reflect and limit release to kill her as arisha in a solo. I got her down to 1.9 bars with just +12, 26.4k attack, 137 crit. Pretty sure at 140 crit and +15.. 1k limit release is enough to (barely) do it.
Tbh the thing with Neamhain seems to be more about having 2800 unlimited ATT, Damage Reflect and min-maxed gear (a.k.a being a statbag\steroids). I'm pretty sure that every class with these ridiculous stats could solo Neamhain (maybe aside from Bow, Pillar, Hammer and Lynn).
Sword Fiona is the only class I know that didn't have ridiculous stats when soloing Neamhain. The rest had 2500+ unlimited ATT, +15 and Damage Reflect.
2800 ALB is not a big thing in KR now and many classes can achive that already but there are only said classes have enough dps to finish the raid in time, it means something. Though i can't say i disagree that sword fifi has the best tools for soloing.
I can't say anything about most other classes but I want to say that Scythe Evie is the best class for farm soloing.
Her mobbing is better any anyone else's because of Bloody Thread and Void Star being able to clear out rooms and her boss killing is rather easy due to how simple her skill kit is.
She also covers the most distance in the least time out of every class as far as I know.
She's not as good as Fiona or Vella, but she's good and she's safe.
I play both scythe and staff, both Fiona and Vella. Staff is simply subpar compared to those classes. Even though staff is heavy hitter when crits are on your side she's super slow at dishing out that damage because spells need to be charged and it takes time even with ~60-70 speed. In the meantime Fiona/Vella could just counter/xcut bosses' attacks and get good chunks of their health while you're still charging spell. Oh, and the best thing about staff - try to cast homing spells on uneven terrain. 50% of them will miss because fu*k you.
Staff's only saving grace is flying sparrow which basically covers the same distance double blink does.
Okay? Just because Staff isn't as good at soloing as Sword Fiona and Sword Vella, doesn't mean it isn't good. >.>
Depends entirely on the player, the gear, and the boss.
But in general, a good scythe player with endgame gear solos most of the bosses with the most amount of ease.
This is all due to her massive damage output and her amazing ability to not get hit (also, her ability to get to an area where she cannot get hit and then freely attack the boss).
Right after her is crossgun Kai and then probably pillar Karok or whatever else down from there.
Against certain bosses really good spear Lann players can do very well also.
Anyone who thinks swords Vella or sword Fiona is good at soloing needs to take another look at the actual clear times for individual bosses when soloing.
While their mechanics may have them suited for soloing their damage output actually pales in comparison to what a crossgun Kai or a scythe Evie can do and so their ability to clear bosses is weaker. That's just the way the cards fall.
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There really is no need to debate this in this manner. You can look up videos on youtube of people in really good equipment soloing the bosses.
I know I did it last year and I couldn't find anyone to top scythe Evie, Hurk, or crossgun Kai.
And only in a few bosses did I see spear Lann or pillar Karok doing really well.
And if you think those videos don't showcase the truth then you are welcome to do your own and show us how you can do better with your Lynn against the videos of scythe Evie clearing gold in Lugh at sub 4 minutes (I think a few were even really close to 3 minutes). Good luck if you aren't crossgun Kai or another scythe Evie. >_>
The only wildcard is Delia. I know from personal experience that if you get lucky she might be really close to Arisha level but I doubt she can do it consistently.
Best Solo Raid: TS Vella (honorable mention: LS Fiona)
Best Farming: Scthe Evie (honorable mention Xgun Kai)
Best Party Raid: Xgun Kai (honorable mention Karok)
Best Overall Solo + Party Raid: Karok / Arisha / Hurk
Worst Overall: Probably Lynn
Best Overall: Xgun Kai / Karok / (Arisha if you need boobs)
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Karok pillar main here ex Fiona main:
Agreed
Staff is actually really good at soloing.
Dual sword Vella is probably the best all-around soloer. She only really lacks Scythe's mobility.
She's not as good as Fiona or Vella, but she's good and she's safe.
Staff Evie and Chainblade Vella have also soloed Neamhain.
I play both scythe and staff, both Fiona and Vella. Staff is simply subpar compared to those classes. Even though staff is heavy hitter when crits are on your side she's super slow at dishing out that damage because spells need to be charged and it takes time even with ~60-70 speed. In the meantime Fiona/Vella could just counter/xcut bosses' attacks and get good chunks of their health while you're still charging spell. Oh, and the best thing about staff - try to cast homing spells on uneven terrain. 50% of them will miss because fu*k you.
Staff's only saving grace is flying sparrow which basically covers the same distance double blink does.
i haven't updated about them though, mind sharing some vids?
Staff:
Chain:
Tbh the thing with Neamhain seems to be more about having 2800 unlimited ATT, Damage Reflect and min-maxed gear (a.k.a being a statbag\steroids). I'm pretty sure that every class with these ridiculous stats could solo Neamhain (maybe aside from Bow, Pillar, Hammer and Lynn).
Sword Fiona is the only class I know that didn't have ridiculous stats when soloing Neamhain. The rest had 2500+ unlimited ATT, +15 and Damage Reflect.
Arisha and TS vella are the worst at these farm maps. Poor movement speed and god awful at clearing s3 trash.
Regarding neam, I'm pretty sure you don't need maxed reflect and limit release to kill her as arisha in a solo. I got her down to 1.9 bars with just +12, 26.4k attack, 137 crit. Pretty sure at 140 crit and +15.. 1k limit release is enough to (barely) do it.
2800 ALB is not a big thing in KR now and many classes can achive that already but there are only said classes have enough dps to finish the raid in time, it means something. Though i can't say i disagree that sword fifi has the best tools for soloing.
This is where classes that can multi hit or have an extremely high burst against Niet have an advantage.
Her mobbing is better any anyone else's because of Bloody Thread and Void Star being able to clear out rooms and her boss killing is rather easy due to how simple her skill kit is.
She also covers the most distance in the least time out of every class as far as I know.
Okay? Just because Staff isn't as good at soloing as Sword Fiona and Sword Vella, doesn't mean it isn't good. >.>
But in general, a good scythe player with endgame gear solos most of the bosses with the most amount of ease.
This is all due to her massive damage output and her amazing ability to not get hit (also, her ability to get to an area where she cannot get hit and then freely attack the boss).
Right after her is crossgun Kai and then probably pillar Karok or whatever else down from there.
Against certain bosses really good spear Lann players can do very well also.
Anyone who thinks swords Vella or sword Fiona is good at soloing needs to take another look at the actual clear times for individual bosses when soloing.
While their mechanics may have them suited for soloing their damage output actually pales in comparison to what a crossgun Kai or a scythe Evie can do and so their ability to clear bosses is weaker. That's just the way the cards fall.
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There really is no need to debate this in this manner. You can look up videos on youtube of people in really good equipment soloing the bosses.
I know I did it last year and I couldn't find anyone to top scythe Evie, Hurk, or crossgun Kai.
And only in a few bosses did I see spear Lann or pillar Karok doing really well.
And if you think those videos don't showcase the truth then you are welcome to do your own and show us how you can do better with your Lynn against the videos of scythe Evie clearing gold in Lugh at sub 4 minutes (I think a few were even really close to 3 minutes). Good luck if you aren't crossgun Kai or another scythe Evie. >_>
The only wildcard is Delia. I know from personal experience that if you get lucky she might be really close to Arisha level but I doubt she can do it consistently.
Best Farming: Scthe Evie (honorable mention Xgun Kai)
Best Party Raid: Xgun Kai (honorable mention Karok)
Best Overall Solo + Party Raid: Karok / Arisha / Hurk
Worst Overall: Probably Lynn
Best Overall: Xgun Kai / Karok / (Arisha if you need boobs)
Sylas is also pretty good.
A character like Lynn is a lot more effort.