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What would YOU consider average stats at lv.90?
Anyone can answer this whether you are elitist or pleb, there're no rights and wrongs.
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Below are some examples that I could come up with, there are no right and wrongs once again. If you think it should be higher, let me know what it should be. Feel free to comment on this thread.
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(Or main vs alts...)
Personally I aimed for ~20k att , 10k def (well on hurk/lann/karok/fiona) 80 bal, >100 crit. For actually running S3 content raids using my alts, which is what I consider lv 90 content. So I will vote the middle I guess.
Edit: I guess what in general would also refer to is: if you join an 8-man s2 (or s3) raid, you add up everyone's stats and take the average, what would that be? Again I know sometimes people join a pro team and sometimes you get a noob team, but is there an average? I would like to know.
Those numbers probably work for an actual average too, so many people in endgame are either finished a gear set or struggling to get started on one.
Right now it's 130 crit/~22.7k (if I remember right) for season 3.
But with those their crit/bal/attack speed is very pitiful.
With royal army raid and stuff racking up player's attack stat, you should only be looking like those 3 important stats.
20k att
10k def
95 crit
75-80 bal
30-35 spd
As for personal preferences, I try to aim for 20k, 100 crit and 35 spd
I tried to get this for my alts.
Most of my characters, I try to aim for 24-25K ATT/M.ATT, 13-14K DEF, 40-50 ATS, 80+ balance, 120+ crit.
It is what will get you into Neamhain and I want to be able to gear ALL my characters for it.
The second one might be for 2014, or just when lv90 Orange weapons aren't as cheap as they are now. Everyone is using lv 90 weapons now. Attack isn't that hard to get anyways, you can break 21k with a +10. People push more towards high attack and attack speed these days.
My delia with a puprle +10 90 has 22.1k attack.
Both chars are using emerald/ruby bracelets.
The attack options in the vote list is far too low compared to the rest of the stats for current equipment. It is actually really really hard to reach those crit/bal/speed levels while keeping your attack that low.
People, if the average attack for a lv.90 player is 21k, then you can expect to see an 8-man raid with pretty much everyone @ 21k attack OR some with 23k and some with 19k or something like that which makes sense to me speaking from experience.
If the average attack were something like 23k.... holy crap you can expect pretty much ANYONE to walk into a boat and feel like WE GOT DIS.!
Getting crit/bal/speed would actually take some enchanting. Getting to the levels of your middle option can be done with the cheaper/cost effective enchants like leopard, wb, master, and is reasonably obtainable for a casual player. But for said player to get there, they are almost certainly going to have way more than 18k attack.
That is why the voting result seems to be so skewed. The attack values given for the second option is just far too low, despite the rest of those stats being about right for the average joe.If you put an option with 20k attack and rest of stats in option 2, I bet that one will be most voted by a landslide.
I have a 6.481 M.ATT purple main on my +10 Twink Bloodlust Regina Scythe and I have like.. 21k+ Can get 22k with Divine Punishment.
http://tinyurl.com/omg4f37
Secondaries stats are enough, no matter which class.
> 57 Speed with a purple weapon, which mean limited to +10. And mind it's with Divine Punishment, I could get over 60 if I'd go for Bloodlust/Valor. (not to mention I'm using a Scythe -> 20-21 extra speed from perma IR -> 77-78 speed eeeeeeeeh :> Yeah I will admit beginning of the raid might be kind of annoying until you have 500 SP but then again, you can just use Paw and done.)
> 600 ATT away from the cap, which isn't that much of a big deal.
> 119 Crit is only 11 Crit away from cap, remember we used to have barely 100 before s3 so I don't see the problem as well, s2 raids were still quick even with less than 100 Crit. (their Crit cap is usually 104/109)
> 85 Balance more than enough too.
> 10.3k DEF isn't that bad, at least it would actually improve game difficulty somehow, and still.
And, actually, this build doesn't even have bracelets : equipped Silvers but I haven't used any gems. Even if you would have to use Copper, going for Eme/Ruby or Eme/Sapphire-Diamond is still good. I would count an additional 400 ATT/M.ATT and 600 DEF from Sap-Dia/Eme Coppers, which here would already give 22.5k ATT/M.ATT and ~11k DEF, which again, is more than enough.
Forgot to mention even the secondaries aren't even high-tier as well, so you can add a few Crit and Bal + Einrach as well (3Crit 5Bal) unless the Armory now accounts EinHurrDurr titles.