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Returner9 wrote: »

ikevi wrote: »

What does gatcha's and black Fridays sales have anything to do with people not liking the new combat voices? Heck I haven't heard any say they are stopping playing, let alone stopping paying Nexon money. At most we have said we just play without the sound, and are unhappy because of it.

Devcat and Nexon count dollar bills, not long-winded tirades on a forum or edgy one-liners on discord. Nexon doesn’t need to care about you liking or not liking the new voices as long as the cash keeps flowing in.

But you wouldn't get it. You're one of those people.

If players don't like the new voices, which results in a significant spike in player turnover and the real threat of a boycott from loyal spenders, it directly effects their projected income. Their "cash flow" has everything to do with the playerbase liking or not liking this game. People spend, because they like this game. If player morale is low, players tend to spends less.....Shocker.

Please think before you type. There are a metric ton of examples where a company makes a horrifically stupid change to a game, and the combined community outrage created a more favorable result, a result that was achieved by people speaking up about the problem, and ignoring decent from naysayers. People sharing their dissatisfaction with the new voices is very useful information for Nexon, it's actual criticism of the service. It could very well lead to the option to choose our voice packs or some other revision that improves OUR version of the game. This is s change that would be very much welcome by both veterans and newcomers for years to come. It's people like you who sabotage the growth of this game.

Well, might as well just drop my two cents real quick.

I don't like em. Some of them tolerable, a few I Hate, Seriously. I mean no offense to the voice actors, but this game has been around a very long time and we have grown use to how our characters sound. What if you come home and your daughter's or Wife's voice suddenly dropped 3.5 octaves for no reason. Exactly. It's weird.

The only one I am okay with Is Belle, only because she sounds extremely close to the original Korean actor. Good thing she pretty much my main right now..... I totally get how some people are quitting the game over the changes. Some of the voices are very jarring, at least try to make them sound similar to the originals VAs. Still, I would prefer the original Korean actor for Belle......and all the chars period.

Just give me the option to choose a voice pack. Please. Seriously, why don't you just add these options your community has demanded for centuries. Literally Korea has this feature. Why. Don't. You. Add. It. To. This. Client. Too.

I'm done.

Kurs wrote: »

Constructive criticism can be great, but I got to say that it seems to me that there are a lot of people who are the type who just want to complain, or jump to conclusions, or have such a negative view of Nexon that no matter what Nexon does, even if they do everything perfectly they'll always hate on Nexon and say they're doing certain things when they're literally doing the opposite, or they'll just jump on every small little mistake in such an over-reactive manner due to their unchanging hate of Nexon.

Like you said, your view of Nexon will never change no matter what. Do you not see potential problems with that way of thinking? And I think it's safe to say that there are different types of people with different types of tastes, so there are people who genuinely like things that you don't like. Like the recent voice actor patch, I like it or at the very least I don't think it's that bad, and it's possible that the people who hired the voice actors picked from a line of voice actors and just thought these VA's were the perfect fit.

The missing patch notes are a problem, but it's hard to be completely on the side of people who only complain and hate and assume when everything isn't going perfectly their way... heck I have my doubts they really know what exactly what they would want when it comes down to the details if they actually thought about it.

To clear things up, when I said my opinion on Nexon won't change, I specifically meant there is nothing you (the average player) can say to sway my opinion. It will only change from the actions of Nexon. Until then my stance on this company is overwhelmingly negative.

You have to keep in mind, people get jaded, feel slighted, or get frustrated with the constant wasted potential in games. The majority of these people at one point attempted to be constructive with Nexon, but then eventually became jaded and resorted to coping with it via trolling, nonconstructive pessimism, or simply....vanishing (which is the worst one, this means people are actually losing interest in the game). I have watched this company fail for no reason for 10 years. That's a very long time, the rose-tinted glasses are long gone and I call it for what it is. If it's no good, then it is what it is. I'm not gonna blow smoke and be fake positive about everything to spare people's feelings, it doesn't work. There is literally nothing positive about neglecting patch notes. Nothing.

When you say "complain", you have to realize that almost all complaints IS criticism (criticism is inherently negative, it's just some people are more crude than others). Not everything should be positive ass-kissery, nor be negative QQing. Like Yin and Yang, there must be a healthy balance between the two, with Yin occasionally overtaking Yang (critical acclaim) and Yang occasionally overtaking Yin (outrage). Simply denouncing complaint as "the negative QQing trolls, why u even complaining, just leave the game lol, why u still here?" is a foolish mindset to have. You end up ignoring the core of their grievances or you come off as a white knight even if that wasn't your intent, simply because you were offended by them being a little aggressive/crude. You can't shut down and be that sensitive to negativity (unfortunately most people in 2019 are).

Don't be afraid of negativity. Stop defending corporate, praise them need be, sure. But never forget they do not have your best interest, Ever. If they pretend they do, it is a business strategy. 9 times out of 10, that one guy who won't stop "complaining" has your bast interest at heart (unless obvious troll). Even if his opinion is horrible or you strongly disagree on some things, don't try to shut people down just because they are "negative", join the discourse and share your differing viewpoints, or simply ignore them and let it pass. Let people get their grievances off their chest., its healthy both for them and the service. If not, they will feel like they are yelling into the void and they vanish. I can write a whole essay on this, but will spare the wall of text.

Actual trolling is obviously not okay. Spamming "ded gaem lol" type threads, threatening or slandering staff/the company for little to no reason is not okay. No one likes these people, but even this type of negativity can be a symptom. Clearly Nexon got a lot of these types lurking their games (Gee I wonder why.......) But this problem would't be so bad for them if they didn't invite this behavior and attitude via the way they ran their games (into the ground) over the years.

I know a few weeks ago, they released a patch that revamped quite a few classes, and literally not an official word was said.....How.
Just imagine a company like Blizzard or Riot doing this. Hell, even Pearl Abyss or EA wouldn't do this. The gaming community would have these company's heads on the guillotine. Again Nexon is truly a "special kind", that's the only way I can describe it. How do you have a full English translation/dubbing of your game, but no official patch note? That's insane.
Actually now that I think about it, was there even a patch note for Belle's release? lmao. I'ma assume no. Unreal.


And if people wonder why I tend to dump on Nexon, well:
1) first of all, I've been observing this company for over 10 years, there is nothing you can say that will shift my opinion on these people. Please don't try. Lets just get that out the way. I do praise them when its warranted, but it's extremely rare. (I gave them a pat on the back for Belle for example) I was gonna give some feedback on the new voice actors, but now I won't bother.

2) Criticism is constructive. Yes, QQing, and putting companies on blast can (and does) lead to improvement of their service....like adding an official patch note to the website/game, Jesus Christ. I like Vindictus. I like Maplestory. These games I grew up with. They can easily top charts if Nexon just tries. I would like to see these games be successful, but they are just a lost cause even though they don't have to be. I'ma be real with you, the QQing is in vein. I am probably one of the last people that openly critiques this company in any way, because all the other players simply gave up a looong time ago or hid away in their discord servers (don't blame them). In a way, I pretty much gave up too. The only ones left are the ultra-fans of these games, many of them being white knights.

I just wish more people would call them out on **** like this and force them to hold this game service to normal standards.

After 10 years, I still to this day do not understand how this company is managed so poorly. They are a true anomaly, special kind bad if you know what I mean. How do do do a full re-dubbing of literally the entire game's cast., but can't be bothered to post a patch note so your players know wtf is added to the game. Like I can't fathom how a company neglects both it's costumers and service so hard. I actually lose brain cells when I think about it....so I don't.