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I mean if you're going to completely and totally make a BETTER copy of her through Miri, why keep her? Why does she even exist? We can just give Miri her dodge and block (since, heck, Miri's block is only useful when running anyway), and then she'll be absolutely worthless.
Either that, or I guess you could give her a second weapon that's either the same as her current one (looks at Lann and Fiona, and Vella's swords for honorary mention), or will be released as an even BETTER copy as Miri's second. I mean, if Delia is this useless already, why not just treat her second weapon the same way?
Do you even realize that Delia will be abandoned completely until her second weapon comes out? Do you realize how absolutely RIDICULOUS Miri is, not just in power but in the fact that she makes not only Delia, but Vella's second weapon useless???
Did DOL just wake up one day and decide that they wanted to burn DevCat's legacy to the ground? Because it's smoldering right now.
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As for Delia, sure Miri and her share a lot of points, has a transformation of super sayian, Ultimate Sp move is situational . But with a high attack speed with Delia I think she can out DPS a lot of people. Also Miri is a bit hard to control since her dragon flame attacks may miss the target or put her in a bad position.
But I agree that the DOL is, I feel he is pushing everything too fast with too little quality control, too many bugs and balance issue , ignoring what made Vindictus fun to play. DOL has no idea what a game is and trying to based his decisions somekind of SIMS Club Penguins where battle is like 5th place where cosmetic , loot boxes, pets and chat come first. Like who really uses the class chatroom?
Even the players that main them are superior, but I wouldn't expect anyone but us to understand that, due to how high of an IQ you have to have in order to understand it. :^)
I get what you mean about Delia having faster attacks, but there are multiple things Miri has that counter that:
1. Her dragon attacks build up a ton of SP which allow her to spam a powerful long-range attack which builds up a ton of dragon flame with almost no cooldown. She can take off 2 of a boss's bars almost instantly if she aims right and the boss doesn't dodge, then do unlimited dragon attacks.
2. You can enter her dragon attacks almost instantly with a dodge, quick right click, FAST left click, FAST right click. This double-cancel sends her directly into her large AoE, so she doesn't need to waste time by using normal attacks. Delia only has dodge spam through her dodge-rightclick-fastdodge and that is nothing compared to Miri's long dodges and the correct positioning of Fiery Evasion.
3. Delia has a block that can't stop the OHKOs, takes a sec to occur, and has a right click smash that takes forever to execute. This makes her very slow, and in fact most of her gameplay is just that blocking since her dodge doesn't go very far. Miri instead counters with massive damage while she's attacking normally; if used correctly, you can deal equal damage to what you would through dragon attacks, constantly and without delay. A successful counter then gives her an awesome buff.
And Miri starts fast, while Delia starts slow. Not to mention the fact that attack speed even increases her dragon gauge refill rate, so the attack speed stat on her is double useful.
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to play Arisha and Kai. The combat is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the moves will go over a typical player’s head. There’s also Kai’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his gameplay- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The players understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these skills, to realise that they’re not just useful - they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Arisha & Kai truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the depth in Kai’s existential skill “Prey Dive,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon’s genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.
And yes, by the way, i DO have an Arisha & Kai tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the ladies’ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid
Perfect.
Fiona + Hurk = Delia.
Really stinks that you need excessively high speed to do decent damage anyway.
If anything Delia and Fiona are more similar because they both have a dash, block with a counter attack, and an SP skill with low cooldown that makes them kinda beyblade (focal point and full moon)
Yeah Miri has a better trans than Delia but just because they both trans doesn't mean Miri is a better Delia.
If anything Miri is more similar to other characters, Delia's parry is similar to Karok, her range/weapon look is a lot like CB Vella, a dash like Fiona (Delia too I guess but Fifi was there first), Flamebreath which is a lot like Arisha's mana bar.
To me just saying "DELETE DELIA MIRI IS A BETTER VERSION OF HER IGNASUEGBNAEU" is cutting a lot of characters short and just comparing them based off of the trans alone isn't a viable argument imo.
If you actually read my above posts, you'd see that I did not even mention Delia's transformation at all, and that is not how I compared them. Their transformations are completely different, and Delia mainly relies on buff skills while Miri can go straight into powered attacks.
My comparison was in what they're useful FOR. Delia is known for her block counters.... Well Miri can counter while attacking. Delia is known for her dash ability - well Miri's dodge is a dash and she actually has 2 dash abilities in addition to that. Both of them use 2-handed slow weapons, but Miri's is faster and stronger, with large AoE. Not to mention the fact that Delia's quick entry into battle can be done by Miri, and Miri even has nukes that Delia can't compare to. Miri also has insane SP regeneration with little Stamina use, while Delia is hungry for SP and Stamina.
Delia's buffs will based o attack speed, but anyone who knows Delia's speed curve will know that a few points of attack speed at the start won't really change her speed at all. What they NEED to do is give Delia faster animations or else more animation cancels, because it's her animation that really lag her, as well as better buffs for blocking that make blocking "charge" her power, so there's actually a point to that 10 seconds of wasted DPS while he blocks, since she would be able to return the damage 10-fold in the next 10 seconds.
But I honestly believe she just needs a great, UNIQUE second weapon. That's what will really save her. Or else, maybe she could be given a large hoop like in Soul Caliber to REPLACE her sword. The devs could easily keep many of her current skills and also add more, perhaps even giving her a SMASH COUNTER that's effectively better than Miri's Normal Counter. Plus it would then actually make sense for her second weapon to be the one I want, the dual chakrams - but still, giant chakram would be a perfect replacement for bastard sword.
Miri solo clear no hit: ATT 32179 / Bal 90 / Cri 153 / ATT SPD 100 / Limit Release 3250 / Additional Damage 6000
Miri only has a faster clear time cause clearly 1000 more ADD dmg, more limit release, and more stats, yet the clear times are pretty close to eachother.
I don't see how Delia is useless, maybe learn to play her properly xD
Scythe Evie is powerful. When I get my new laptop I'll try this Miri.
Actually, you're playing Miri wrong. Every single time you use a normal combo into dragon attacks, you're wasting DPS. You're SUPPOSED to do Spinethrow CANCELED by a FAST left click CANCELED by a FAST right click. This only takes half a second and sends her right into dragon attacks. If you don't do that, you're intentionally failing to utilize her maximum DPS. You have almost unlimited Stamina available on her so there's no reason for you not to be doing this when you obviously know how to use Delia's cancels. You also need to make sure you have crit maxed and then focus on attack speed so you generate maximum dragon regen, since your dragon regen rate looks super slow.
Don't talk about failing to use Delia properly when you yourself fail to use Miri properly.
Are you talking out of ur ass or something Miri has 100 Attack speed.
Also those are not my chars, it's someone else playing just listed videos to show you the little difference.
Please do show us you superior technique of using Miri, show a solo or anything doesn't matter if u have the stats, just gameplay. xD
Fun fact, she's actually among the best damage dealers in game
*Was.