Gewellirious

Armageddal wrote: »

I'm excited to try this. While not everything is perfect, I am particularly glad of the many smaller QoL changes, which I think will go a long way towards the long-term health of the game.

I know a lot of people are upset about various changes to end-game progression, but claims that those changes "destroy" the game are unfounded. The game does not revolve entirely around the hardcore, though I know many people seem to feel that it does. The smaller QoL changes and changes to encourage new players are far more important.

What's the point making changes for new players if they're going to end up quitting due to the endgame garbage ones ? As someone said already on this forums, people just gonna quit at lv90 now instead of lv 30-40... NOTHING changed, that's the problem of this update : the best it will do is to change NOTHING. I don't really know how it's exciting to try this out.. they literally threw out 6 years of this game's identity in the trash can, nothing else.

There were much better changes to do rather than literally made the game totally lose its identity... but they haven't listened to players feedbacks at all so, not so surprised anyway.

And if you think I'm hating, not really, I'm just sad because one of my most favorite game just died for me, everything I actually spent time for and enjoyed so far is now pretty much dead and the remaining content is simply "empty".

I said it multiple times and I'll say it again here : this is atrocious.

A super lazy way of fixing low-lvls = everything is given to you on a diamond plate, yeah seeing how spoiled it is, it's not a silver plate anymore, we're easily leagues ahead.

QoL changes that should have been made since 3-4 years already, now it just feels empty because it's simply 'too late' = no idea why consulting our mailbox w/o being near one was made only after 6 years of this game for example. Or why can we skip dialog only after so many years as well... you tell me I guess lol.

Additional damage off the charts = I will thank MrGatto for his comparison to XE, because that's so true especially with how many NA/PRE telling us how "not so skilled"/unbalanced this combo system was. Oh look now, we have much worse via enhancement lvls. Great job guys.
No I don't really want to defend combo system actually, even with its incentive but damn. I remember Kairo (Fiona) doing 30k CA max with +15, then I remember when I saw Juny's CAs during rise streams dealing 41k+ to Regina, with either LOWER enhancement or same +15... nice joke.

All this for ? Having the same game progression than before. But I guess you can be happy if you're settling for +12 only, which is the new mediocrity since this update.
Maybe it's supposed to be challenging now in a way, if only the raids bosses themselves are a challenge. think people can only settle down with Neamhain, which will prolly gives no rewards unless you get the emote now.. rip


You think that was all ? Can't be Gewellirious in your head without letting a big ass wall of text first, but I'll make another thread to go in-depths of this rise update... seeing how the majority thinks like me, it looks like the "misinformed" people were the others since the beginning.

Also lol, misinformation just because one guy misread details is ridiculous... while others that made an opinion thus far read Discord/Inven/watch YT videos but yeah, we are mis-informed.

The patch we will get is the exact same as KR, it's not hard to understand, there are no misinformations at all, we're going to get this and that's pretty much it.

So I guess us "elites" (LUL) should keep complaining about saving our game, thank you very much.

SAX wrote: »

Are we selling cereal now?, saying simply ''rip vindictus'' is not a good feedback, you at least have to say what you dont like and point what you do like so people can have an idea of what to do.

The world would be a fairy tale if all people where kind enough to help.

Really ? And even if we do so, it's "You don't contribute to it by not paying so you don't have anything to say qqqqqqqq".
Hypocrites.

We don't have to explain much when facts (numbers) are out, which DOL says were "fake", that we get these rates by "piracy", but at least we know much better than him what the Hell this game is actually hiding.

He lied about overall enhancement rates being changed. (even NEXON NA CONFIRMED THE RATES LOLZ, please fuq off DOL)
He lied about our new enhancement rates sheet being 'fake', it IS real.
He thinks his sh*tty additonal damage changes will not make the game easier, when in facts our weapons will be now 13 f*cking times stronger. Apparently, it's not a game balance difference, interesting...

Should we talk about the real point of the update again ? Which was something like "our players quit at lv30, we need them to keep being clingy to the game" ? SO why the F--- do we have end-game garbage changements with NO relation to the main point at all ? Making enhancement to +10 easier for casuals ? Make less enchant scrolls so the player isn't lost ? Alright.

Now, why the f*ck are you breaking the whole damage formula ? Again, it has NO relation to the main problem. Question2 seems mostly pessimistic but right now, I wanna say he's right : this smells the sh*t pay2win, especially when you have changes such as "giving extra cores for deeps" or the whole ranking system being based on STATS.

How is forcing people to get to endgame progression via more RNG a good thing ? ATT limit is going to be pointless because additional damage are off the charts now, enjoy having wasted 2b for it, for something that is now barely even gonna make a difference at all.
And you'll get a +18-20 ? Pff, haha, when you'll do so, please throw any Fast you can, Balance isn't even going to make a difference due to the atrocious power creep these enhancement lvls has with additional damage.. at this point where even having 0 Balance barely makes you lose a lot of damage output.

Everything's on Shippuu's forums, please read them and you will see how TERRIBLE this update is.

And the worst part is how all the QOL changes are actually, great, but then you have this kind of garbage that literally ruins every single part of it. Someone on these offical forums said that people are gonna quit at lv80-90 instead of 30 now, and he's absolutely right, all the devs managed to do is trying to repair a sinking ship but we all know it's going to be temporary fixes.

China didn't even had the update, saw all the facts/numbers, and are already uninstalling the game.
Here, we all break our weapons so we can get the +15 because why not, we have GM restore anyway, let's use it one last time, to not let it go in vain.

U G H

Question2 wrote: »

Maybe it was increased to 7.7 then reduced by 25%?

Said it's from 2 days ago, so it's obvious that it's reduced by 25% from that 7.7 value, think it makes it a tad higher of what we currently have pre-Rise now so that's why I said it's not a big deal anymore, "top" players already clear the raid in 5 mins, even with 4 depending on the players.

Now that you have even more damage like, by multiple multiple times, s3 is still "fodder" again.