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  • BownerBowner
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    boo4u wrote: »
    Saphree wrote: »
    wow this thread has gotten a lot worse since I last saw it, how long until it gets locked? +cold

    I don't see any moderators on the forums anymore, so this shitpost of a thread will continue to burn.

    FM's don't get paid enough to care about the forums and certainly not any of us.

    they dont get paid real money, only nx
  • hugemelllhugemelll
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    edited October 22, 2018
    Arix wrote: »
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    We all know its basically impossible for NA to clear hell mode until lvl 100 weapons arrive, please report this guy and get him banned for obvious cheating/hacks.


    For those who still argue that this is accusation to Evistix, Here is the official damage formula of Vindictus.


    Part. 1
    formula.png
    Source: Orimad, (2017), http://www.inven.co.kr/board/heroes/2028/37452?name=subjcont&keyword=데미지 공식.

    This is the official formula after the rise patch. According to this formula, there are 6 major stats that affect the damage you can do to a character.
    1. Character's ATK
    2. Boss's Def
    3. Additional Dmg
    4. Attack Limit Removal
    5. Balance
    6. Minimum dmg 900 (this is fixed minimum dmg that you'll do no matter what.
    also, ①-② cannot exceed 10000, according to what I found during the investigation.)

    and:
    Character's Average dmg = [{(①-②)+⑥+④)}+{(①-②+④)/10900}*6.25*③]*⑤*Skills's Stat to dmg ratio.

    - Evistix's char has 30,571 for the atk, which will be our ① for this formula.
    - Both Hell mode Balor and Neam has 29000 for their def, which will be our ②.
    - Evistix's 300 attack limit removal will be our ④ for this formula.
    - Evistix has 2630 add dmg, which will be our ③ for this formula.
    - Evistix has 86 bal, which also means he does 86%~ 100% dmg at the most. so the value of 0.86 will be our ⑤.

    in this case, with Evistix's stats, the equation goes as follow

    Evistix's Average dmg (before applying stats to smash ratio):
    = [{(30571-29000) + (900 + 300)} + {(30571-29000 + 300)/10900} x 6.25 x 2630] x 0.86 x smash ratio

    and if we solve this,
    = [{(1571 + 1200) + {(1871)/10900} x 6.25 x 2630] x 0.86 x smash ratio
    = [{(2771) + (0.171651 x 6.25 x 2630)}] x 0.86 x smash ratio
    = (2771 + 16437.5) x 0.86 x smash ratio
    = 19208.5 (this is the 100% dmg on average for Evistix's Stats, without applying balance or smash ratios or crits or atk speed) x 0.86 x smash ratio
    = 16519.31 (average dmg applied with only balance) x smash ratio

    so in this case, Evistix's average dmg will be (19208.5+16519.31)/2, which is 17863.91.
    this value is still missing the actual smash ratio's which is essential to get the actual dmg.

    but with this, this is definitely not enough dmg to solo clear off Hell mode Balor.
    and Hell mode Balor has 480M HP, and even if he does 17863.91 at every second, it will be at 64,310,058 dmg for 1 full hour, which is 3600 seconds.
    Which means, he can barely deal maybe 12% at the most during the full 1 hour.



    Part 2. Smash Ratio
    and here's Xgun Kai's Stat to smash ratio:
    ratio.png
    Source: Everafter, (2013), http://www.inven.co.kr/board/heroes/2074/38433

    The maximum ratios of Xgun Kai's atk
    normal hit: 0.019
    Insight: 0.039
    Hand bomb: 0.172
    Spin Smash: 0.197
    Hallow Shot: 0.659
    Perforate: 0.329
    Six Shooter: 1.574
    Bolt Storm: 3.856
    Atomic: 3.667

    and during part 1, we discovered the value 17863.91 needs to be applied with the ratios listed above.
    after applying to ratios the damages are below:

    normal hit: 339
    Insight: 696.6923
    Hand bomb: 3072
    Spin Smash: 3519
    Hallow Shot: 11772
    Perforate: 5877
    Six Shooter: 28117
    Bolt Storm: 68883
    Atomic: 65506

    and if we say he can use all of these skills every seconds, the damage he can deal to hell mode balor is..

    normal hit: 1,221,891, if he can do 10 hits per second, this will be 12,218,911 for 1 full hour with just normal hit.

    Insight: 2,508,092

    Hand bomb: 11,061,329

    Spin Smash: 12,669,081

    Hallow Shot: 42,380,328

    Perforate: 21,158,009

    Six Shooter: 101,224,031, but realistically, the dmg for 1 full hour will be like 6,748,268, since six shooter has 15 seconds cooldown.

    Bolt Storm: 247,979,583 (but this is impossible output, since Blot Storm is fixed to 30 rounds and has 1 min cooldown to reuse, so the actual dmg
    for full 1 hour will be much lower, the actual dmg will be more like 68883 x 30 x 60, which will be 123,989,791 at the most).

    Atomic: 235,824,982 abviously, atomic has 3 min cooldown, so actual dmg for full hour of atomic will be 1,310,138. if that is he uses it every cooldown.

    so from this case, you can tell that his dmg output is not enough for solo clear any hell mode.


    Part. 3
    and here's explanation on how ASPD affects the dmg.
    aspd.png
    Source: Reinvert, (2015), http://www.inven.co.kr/board/heroes/2028/32937

    key points on this explanation:
    a. 1 asp is equal to 0.5% increase of character's Dmg.
    b. depends on the character (characters with least recoils or big recoils), it may vary from 0.09% to 0.5% (and 0.5% was confirmed as the maximum value according to investigation).

    and Evistix has 58 aspd, which will be 29% dmg increase at the max. if we apply this bonus to his dmg per second
    (again, the dmg per second i calculated are only available only if all his skills had 0 cooldown at all)

    normal hit: 437 per second | 1,576,239 for full 1 hour

    Insight: 898 per second | 3,235,439 for full 1 hour

    Hand bomb: 3963 per second | 14,269,115 for full 1 hour

    Spin Smash: 4539 per second | 16,343,115 for full 1 hour

    Hallow Shot: 15186 per second | 54,670,623 for full 1 hour

    Perforate: 7581 per second | 27,293,831 for full 1 hour

    Six Shooter: 36271 per second | 130,579,000 for full 1hour (if this skill has 0 cooldown)
    | 8,705,266 for full hour ( this is the actual dmg he can put out after considering cooldown of the skill).

    Bolt Storm: 88859 per second | 319,893,662 for full 1hour (but only available if you remove full 1 min cooldown
    from the skill or the 30 rounds limit from the skill). | 159,946,831 this will be the more close to the actual dmg output for 1 hour for his stats, plus this dmg theoretical so will be much lower in the battle).

    Atomic: 84503.95213 per second | 304,214,227.7 for full 1hour (but only available if you remove full 3 min cooldown
    from the skill). | 1,690,079for full hour, if you apply the cool down itself.

    so you can see that Evistix cannot solo clear Hell Mode, cuz he cannot actually deal 480m or 360m hp dmg to either of the bosses within 1 full hour, mostly he can do at the 159m dmg at the most with bolt storm, but even this is available he does nothing else but just shooting for full 1 hour.

    Even every hit's become crit, the most dmg output he can do is 235,921,576 for full 1 hour. but even this will be much lower in the actual battle.

    So therefore, you can conclude that this Evistix has no stats high enough to solo clear any of the Hell Mode, and Yes, he is definitely using game hacks.


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  • noctrednoctred
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    hugemelll wrote: »
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    nah dude he has a full +20 set stashed away for occasions like these just so he can troll us stalkers after the fact.
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  • KittenLover89KittenLover89
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    hugemelll wrote: »
    Arix wrote: »
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    We all know its basically impossible for NA to clear hell mode until lvl 100 weapons arrive, please report this guy and get him banned for obvious cheating/hacks.


    For those who still argue that this is accusation to Evistix, Here is the official damage formula of Vindictus.


    Part. 1
    formula.png
    Source: Orimad, (2017), http://www.inven.co.kr/board/heroes/2028/37452?name=subjcont&keyword=데미지 공식.

    This is the official formula after the rise patch. According to this formula, there are 6 major stats that affect the damage you can do to a character.
    1. Character's ATK
    2. Boss's Def
    3. Additional Dmg
    4. Attack Limit Removal
    5. Balance
    6. Minimum dmg 900 (this is fixed minimum dmg that you'll do no matter what.
    also, ①-② cannot exceed 10000, according to what I found during the investigation.)

    and:
    Character's Average dmg = [{(①-②)+⑥+④)}+{(①-②+④)/10900}*6.25*③]*⑤*Skills's Stat to dmg ratio.

    - Evistix's char has 30,571 for the atk, which will be our ① for this formula.
    - Both Hell mode Balor and Neam has 29000 for their def, which will be our ②.
    - Evistix's 300 attack limit removal will be our ④ for this formula.
    - Evistix has 2630 add dmg, which will be our ③ for this formula.
    - Evistix has 86 bal, which also means he does 86%~ 100% dmg at the most. so the value of 0.86 will be our ⑤.

    in this case, with Evistix's stats, the equation goes as follow

    Evistix's Average dmg (before applying stats to smash ratio):
    = [{(30571-29000) + (900 + 300)} + {(30571-29000 + 300)/10900} x 6.25 x 2630] x 0.86 x smash ratio

    and if we solve this,
    = [{(1571 + 1200) + {(1871)/10900} x 6.25 x 2630] x 0.86 x smash ratio
    = [{(2771) + (0.171651 x 6.25 x 2630)}] x 0.86 x smash ratio
    = (2771 + 16437.5) x 0.86 x smash ratio
    = 19208.5 (this is the 100% dmg on average for Evistix's Stats, without applying balance or smash ratios or crits or atk speed) x 0.86 x smash ratio
    = 16519.31 (average dmg applied with only balance) x smash ratio

    so in this case, Evistix's average dmg will be (19208.5+16519.31)/2, which is 17863.91.
    this value is still missing the actual smash ratio's which is essential to get the actual dmg.

    but with this, this is definitely not enough dmg to solo clear off Hell mode Balor.
    and Hell mode Balor has 480M HP, and even if he does 17863.91 at every second, it will be at 64,310,058 dmg for 1 full hour, which is 3600 seconds.
    Which means, he can barely deal maybe 12% at the most during the full 1 hour.



    Part 2. Smash Ratio
    and here's Xgun Kai's Stat to smash ratio:
    ratio.png
    Source: Everafter, (2013), http://www.inven.co.kr/board/heroes/2074/38433

    The maximum ratios of Xgun Kai's atk
    normal hit: 0.019
    Insight: 0.039
    Hand bomb: 0.172
    Spin Smash: 0.197
    Hallow Shot: 0.659
    Perforate: 0.329
    Six Shooter: 1.574
    Bolt Storm: 3.856
    Atomic: 3.667

    and during part 1, we discovered the value 17863.91 needs to be applied with the ratios listed above.
    after applying to ratios the damages are below:

    normal hit: 339
    Insight: 696.6923
    Hand bomb: 3072
    Spin Smash: 3519
    Hallow Shot: 11772
    Perforate: 5877
    Six Shooter: 28117
    Bolt Storm: 68883
    Atomic: 65506

    and if we say he can use all of these skills every seconds, the damage he can deal to hell mode balor is..

    normal hit: 1,221,891, if he can do 10 hits per second, this will be 12,218,911 for 1 full hour with just normal hit.

    Insight: 2,508,092

    Hand bomb: 11,061,329

    Spin Smash: 12,669,081

    Hallow Shot: 42,380,328

    Perforate: 21,158,009

    Six Shooter: 101,224,031, but realistically, the dmg for 1 full hour will be like 6,748,268, since six shooter has 15 seconds cooldown.

    Bolt Storm: 247,979,583 (but this is impossible output, since Blot Storm is fixed to 30 rounds and has 1 min cooldown to reuse, so the actual dmg
    for full 1 hour will be much lower, the actual dmg will be more like 68883 x 30 x 60, which will be 123,989,791 at the most).

    Atomic: 235,824,982 abviously, atomic has 3 min cooldown, so actual dmg for full hour of atomic will be 1,310,138. if that is he uses it every cooldown.

    so from this case, you can tell that his dmg output is not enough for solo clear any hell mode.


    Part. 3
    and here's explanation on how ASPD affects the dmg.
    aspd.png
    Source: Reinvert, (2015), http://www.inven.co.kr/board/heroes/2028/32937

    key points on this explanation:
    a. 1 asp is equal to 0.5% increase of character's Dmg.
    b. depends on the character (characters with least recoils or big recoils), it may vary from 0.09% to 0.5% (and 0.5% was confirmed as the maximum value according to investigation).

    and Evistix has 58 aspd, which will be 29% dmg increase at the max. if we apply this bonus to his dmg per second
    (again, the dmg per second i calculated are only available only if all his skills had 0 cooldown at all)

    normal hit: 437 per second | 1,576,239 for full 1 hour

    Insight: 898 per second | 3,235,439 for full 1 hour

    Hand bomb: 3963 per second | 14,269,115 for full 1 hour

    Spin Smash: 4539 per second | 16,343,115 for full 1 hour

    Hallow Shot: 15186 per second | 54,670,623 for full 1 hour

    Perforate: 7581 per second | 27,293,831 for full 1 hour

    Six Shooter: 36271 per second | 130,579,000 for full 1hour (if this skill has 0 cooldown)
    | 8,705,266 for full hour ( this is the actual dmg he can put out after considering cooldown of the skill).

    Bolt Storm: 88859 per second | 319,893,662 for full 1hour (but only available if you remove full 1 min cooldown
    from the skill or the 30 rounds limit from the skill). | 159,946,831 this will be the more close to the actual dmg output for 1 hour for his stats, plus this dmg theoretical so will be much lower in the battle).

    Atomic: 84503.95213 per second | 304,214,227.7 for full 1hour (but only available if you remove full 3 min cooldown
    from the skill). | 1,690,079for full hour, if you apply the cool down itself.

    so you can see that Evistix cannot solo clear Hell Mode, cuz he cannot actually deal 480m or 360m hp dmg to either of the bosses within 1 full hour, mostly he can do at the 159m dmg at the most with bolt storm, but even this is available he does nothing else but just shooting for full 1 hour.

    Even every hit's become crit, the most dmg output he can do is 235,921,576 for full 1 hour. but even this will be much lower in the actual battle.

    So therefore, you can conclude that this Evistix has no stats high enough to solo clear any of the Hell Mode, and Yes, he is definitely using game hacks.


    You forgot to factor in that he's just better than you. Stay mad.
  • KursKurs
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    edited October 22, 2018
    do you know the muffin man?
  • hugemelllhugemelll
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    You forgot to factor in that he's just better than you. Stay mad.

    Why would I jealous of a loser that has no skills so he has to rely on hacks? I'm not 'You'

  • hugemelllhugemelll
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    hugemelll wrote: »
    Arix wrote: »
    cF6gU42.png

    alJtASA.png

    PH60GLi.png

    We all know its basically impossible for NA to clear hell mode until lvl 100 weapons arrive, please report this guy and get him banned for obvious cheating/hacks.


    For those who still argue that this is accusation to Evistix, Here is the official damage formula of Vindictus.


    Part. 1
    formula.png
    Source: Orimad, (2017), http://www.inven.co.kr/board/heroes/2028/37452?name=subjcont&keyword=데미지 공식.

    This is the official formula after the rise patch. According to this formula, there are 6 major stats that affect the damage you can do to a character.
    1. Character's ATK
    2. Boss's Def
    3. Additional Dmg
    4. Attack Limit Removal
    5. Balance
    6. Minimum dmg 900 (this is fixed minimum dmg that you'll do no matter what.
    also, ①-② cannot exceed 10000, according to what I found during the investigation.)

    and:
    Character's Average dmg = [{(①-②)+⑥+④)}+{(①-②+④)/10900}*6.25*③]*⑤*Skills's Stat to dmg ratio.

    - Evistix's char has 30,571 for the atk, which will be our ① for this formula.
    - Both Hell mode Balor and Neam has 29000 for their def, which will be our ②.
    - Evistix's 300 attack limit removal will be our ④ for this formula.
    - Evistix has 2630 add dmg, which will be our ③ for this formula.
    - Evistix has 86 bal, which also means he does 86%~ 100% dmg at the most. so the value of 0.86 will be our ⑤.

    in this case, with Evistix's stats, the equation goes as follow

    Evistix's Average dmg (before applying stats to smash ratio):
    = [{(30571-29000) + (900 + 300)} + {(30571-29000 + 300)/10900} x 6.25 x 2630] x 0.86 x smash ratio

    and if we solve this,
    = [{(1571 + 1200) + {(1871)/10900} x 6.25 x 2630] x 0.86 x smash ratio
    = [{(2771) + (0.171651 x 6.25 x 2630)}] x 0.86 x smash ratio
    = (2771 + (0.171651 x 16437.5)) x 0.86 x smash ratio
    = 19208.5 (this is the 100% dmg on average for Evistix's Stats, without applying balance or smash ratios or crits or atk speed) x 0.86 x smash ratio
    = 16519.31 (average dmg applied with only balance) x smash ratio

    so in this case, Evistix's average dmg will be (19208.5+16519.31)/2, which is 17863.91.
    this value is still missing the actual smash ratio's which is essential to get the actual dmg.

    but with this, this is definitely not enough dmg to solo clear off Hell mode Balor.
    and Hell mode Balor has 480M HP, and even if he does 17863.91 at every second, it will be at 64,310,058 dmg for 1 full hour, which is 3600 seconds.
    Which means, he can barely deal maybe 12% at the most during the full 1 hour.



    Part 2. Smash Ratio
    and here's Xgun Kai's Stat to smash ratio:
    ratio.png
    Source: Everafter, (2013), http://www.inven.co.kr/board/heroes/2074/38433

    The maximum ratios of Xgun Kai's atk
    normal hit: 0.019
    Insight: 0.039
    Hand bomb: 0.172
    Spin Smash: 0.197
    Hallow Shot: 0.659
    Perforate: 0.329
    Six Shooter: 1.574
    Bolt Storm: 3.856
    Atomic: 3.667

    and during part 1, we discovered the value 17863.91 needs to be applied with the ratios listed above.
    after applying to ratios the damages are below:

    normal hit: 339
    Insight: 696.6923
    Hand bomb: 3072
    Spin Smash: 3519
    Hallow Shot: 11772
    Perforate: 5877
    Six Shooter: 28117
    Bolt Storm: 68883
    Atomic: 65506

    and if we say he can use all of these skills every seconds, the damage he can deal to hell mode balor is..

    normal hit: 1,221,891, if he can do 10 hits per second, this will be 12,218,911 for 1 full hour with just normal hit.

    Insight: 2,508,092

    Hand bomb: 11,061,329

    Spin Smash: 12,669,081

    Hallow Shot: 42,380,328

    Perforate: 21,158,009

    Six Shooter: 101,224,031, but realistically, the dmg for 1 full hour will be like 6,748,268, since six shooter has 15 seconds cooldown.

    Bolt Storm: 247,979,583 (but this is impossible output, since Blot Storm is fixed to 30 rounds and has 1 min cooldown to reuse, so the actual dmg
    for full 1 hour will be much lower, the actual dmg will be more like 68883 x 30 x 60, which will be 123,989,791 at the most).

    Atomic: 235,824,982 abviously, atomic has 3 min cooldown, so actual dmg for full hour of atomic will be 1,310,138. if that is he uses it every cooldown.

    so from this case, you can tell that his dmg output is not enough for solo clear any hell mode.


    Part. 3
    and here's explanation on how ASPD affects the dmg.
    aspd.png
    Source: Reinvert, (2015), http://www.inven.co.kr/board/heroes/2028/32937

    key points on this explanation:
    a. 1 asp is equal to 0.5% increase of character's Dmg.
    b. depends on the character (characters with least recoils or big recoils), it may vary from 0.09% to 0.5% (and 0.5% was confirmed as the maximum value according to investigation).

    and Evistix has 58 aspd, which will be 29% dmg increase at the max. if we apply this bonus to his dmg per second
    (again, the dmg per second i calculated are only available only if all his skills had 0 cooldown at all)

    normal hit: 437 per second | 1,576,239 for full 1 hour

    Insight: 898 per second | 3,235,439 for full 1 hour

    Hand bomb: 3963 per second | 14,269,115 for full 1 hour

    Spin Smash: 4539 per second | 16,343,115 for full 1 hour

    Hallow Shot: 15186 per second | 54,670,623 for full 1 hour

    Perforate: 7581 per second | 27,293,831 for full 1 hour

    Six Shooter: 36271 per second | 130,579,000 for full 1hour (if this skill has 0 cooldown)
    | 8,705,266 for full hour ( this is the actual dmg he can put out after considering cooldown of the skill).

    Bolt Storm: 88859 per second | 319,893,662 for full 1hour (but only available if you remove full 1 min cooldown
    from the skill or the 30 rounds limit from the skill). | 159,946,831 this will be the more close to the actual dmg output for 1 hour for his stats, plus this dmg theoretical so will be much lower in the battle).

    Atomic: 84503.95213 per second | 304,214,227.7 for full 1hour (but only available if you remove full 3 min cooldown
    from the skill). | 1,690,079for full hour, if you apply the cool down itself.

    so you can see that Evistix cannot solo clear Hell Mode, cuz he cannot actually deal 480m or 360m hp dmg to either of the bosses within 1 full hour, mostly he can do at the 159m dmg at the most with bolt storm, but even this is available he does nothing else but just shooting for full 1 hour.

    Even every hit's become crit, the most dmg output he can do is 235,921,576 for full 1 hour. but even this will be much lower in the actual battle.

    So therefore, you can conclude that this Evistix has no stats high enough to solo clear any of the Hell Mode, and Yes, he is definitely using game hacks.


    oops, I forgot for got to apply his gap on a part of the formula. so my bad on that (30571-29000 + 300)/10900 this wasn't applied
    [{(30571-29000) + (900 + 300)} + {(30571-29000 + 300)/10900} x 6.25 x 2630] x 0.86 x smash ratio

    so when applied, it gives the value of 5592.5133, instead of 19208.5.
    and if we apply the balance, the average dmg will be 5201.037381, which is 3.17 times lower than the original value from the part 1.

    so his dmgs are much weaker, that even highest dmg skills won't exceed 90m dmg at the most for full 1 hour.

    Lion86
  • hugemelllhugemelll
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    edited October 22, 2018
    boo4u wrote: »
    hugemelll wrote: »
    You forgot to factor in that he's just better than you. Stay mad.

    Why would I jealous of a loser that has no skills so he has to rely on hacks? I'm not 'You'

    He is technically better than all of us since he soloed one of the hardest redeemer raids in the game. People got nothing better to do these days but to discuss how morally wrong it is to hack in this game when its really none of our business. Are we forgetting that there are hungry children stranded in Africa while we're behind our desks arguing how its impossible it is to solo this boss in hell mode? How selfish!

    You all either need jesus or some potassium in your life because of how salty you guys are right now.

    I just wanted to tell people 'shut up about this, this dude is clearly a hack user, period'. +haha

  • TheDazzlingTheDazzling
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    jokes aside... people actually tryin to defend this Kai? x_x saying he didn't hack? wow I knew I could be autistic AF at times but some of you guys impress me o_o
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  • TheDazzlingTheDazzling
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    boo4u wrote: »
    jokes aside... people actually tryin to defend this Kai? x_x saying he didn't hack? wow I knew I could be autistic AF at times but some of you guys impress me o_o

    We're trying to defend this Kai because he is a defenseless/harmless player who is trying to enjoy his hobby but instead is being attacked by mathematicians and data miners. Also Dazzy, nobody cares about your autistic behavior so why even bother mentioning it?

    eeh dats true I guess :o
  • TheDazzlingTheDazzling
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    boo4u wrote: »
    boo4u wrote: »
    jokes aside... people actually tryin to defend this Kai? x_x saying he didn't hack? wow I knew I could be autistic AF at times but some of you guys impress me o_o

    We're trying to defend this Kai because he is a defenseless/harmless player who is trying to enjoy his hobby but instead is being attacked by mathematicians and data miners. Also Dazzy, nobody cares about your autistic behavior so why even bother mentioning it?

    eeh dats true I guess :o

    Don't let anyone change you or persuade you into being who they hope you'll be. If you're a toxic Arisha with a competitive/elite attitude which you probably still are then continue being one because we need more toxicity in this community to keep the population low and our servers running grass fed buttery smooth.

    I'd reply but idc about vindi tbh x_x I just think the forums are funny af sometimes...
  • RhapsodyOfFireRhapsodyOfFire
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    edited October 22, 2018
    People still haven't asked him about how he did it.

    Because HackShield is pretty strict, it won't let you run any program that is able to inspect or write to the memory of a process, and if you modify the game's code it will kick you out on its first periodic check.

    It could also be a bug in the hell mode raids that his timer messed up, and he actually did it, but in more than an hour. There is a similar rare bug when you complete a dungeon it won't show the battle cleared window, and you are stuck with the forfeit button.
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  • RhapsodyOfFireRhapsodyOfFire
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    edited October 22, 2018
    boo4u wrote: »
    People still haven't asked him about how he did it.

    Because HackShield is pretty strict, it won't let you run any program that is able to inspect or write to the memory of a process, and if you modify the game's code it will kick you out on its first periodic check.

    It could also be a bug in the hell mode raids that his timer messed up, and he actually did it, but in more than an hour. There is a similar rare bug when you complete a dungeon it won't show the battle cleared window, and you are stuck with the forfeit button.

    Its a secret for a reason because people want to know how to clear the raid.

    Haha

    Btw, i don't think it's cheating when someone hacks/bugs the timer. It's the most annoying feature that makes this game even more gear-dependent. But removing it would abolish the goal of getting better gear every time a new raid comes out, and it would probably lower Nexon's income too.

    I'm actually glad someone showed how sh**ty this system is by doing it with lower gear and everyone is upset because they are waiting for their lv 100 gear to do it. Haha
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  • VladinoVladino
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    This just shows how incompetent Vindi's staff is. People still paying this game should rly reconsider if spending money on bots, hacks or bugs isn't cheaper and better way to get what they want (like clearing imposible hell mode), since they only ban people using Mircosoft people, Skype or the ones trying to help others...
  • KittenLover89KittenLover89
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    hugemelll wrote: »
    You forgot to factor in that he's just better than you. Stay mad.

    Why would I jealous of a loser that has no skills so he has to rely on hacks? I'm not 'You'

    You're trying to do calculations based off a gear set that he clearly didn't run with. Also, I feel your calculations are flawed as it doesn't take "player skill" into effect, which is an unknown variable. Stay salty my friend.
  • noctrednoctred
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    edited October 22, 2018
    Vladino wrote: »
    This just shows how incompetent Vindi's staff is. People still paying this game should rly reconsider if spending money on bots, hacks or bugs isn't cheaper and better way to get what they want (like clearing imposible hell mode), since they only ban people using Mircosoft people, Skype or the ones trying to help others...

    he actually did get banned afaik.

    nexon caved to the green-eyed monster. rip.
  • YagaminYagamin
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    edited October 23, 2018
    boo4u wrote: »
    Nexon apparently gave out the title anyways to anyone who participated in the redeemer hell mode balor event. Now everyone should be happy that they got their meaningless title. lol

    That's so unfair. The news said "And IF and only IF you do end up accomplishing the impossible, then you will be rewarded with an exclusive title". So a lot of people didn't even bother trying the battle. They should have given the title to anyone who has hell balor unlocked or updated the news with another announcement before it ended.
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    Oh neat. +1 more title to 800
  • RhapsodyOfFireRhapsodyOfFire
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    They should have just removed the timer as part of the event and let people do it with their current gear. Problem solved
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  • dazedgumballdazedgumball
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    They should have just removed the timer as part of the event and let people do it with their current gear. Problem solved

    This makes sense but then again, you'll need to find a dedicated party to actually try to finish it.