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Regarding the description of Goibhniu's stone
Currently it's stated "Increases enhancement success rate by 10%".
If this is true, then if the enhancement success rate for +13 is 20%, with this goib. stone it will be 30% enhancement success rate? I have heard many people reply saying it's 10% of* the rate. If that was the case, there would be 'of' in the description but I do not see that, 'of'.
Please read: Increases by 10% can only* state +10%.
Even so, I would like confirmation from the only the Nexon staff regarding this decription.
Pic of the CURRENT *description/goib. below,
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Pic of the previous description below,
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The purpose of this thread is just for clarification purposes, hopefully a staff member can answer, or possible GM.
EDIT:
Oh, that was the previous description.
please show me where it's 'of the current rate', have you read this forum post even?
Percent change = [(V1 - V0) / V0] x 100
= [(22 - 20) / 20] x 100
= (2 / 20) x 100
= 0.1 x 100
= 10% increase
=> increased by 10%
If you need confirmation that it is indeed multiplicative, that was on old forums as well as EU forums.
Here's one post from EU: https://forum.nexoneu.com/showthread.php?1434147-Update-Depot-Enhancement-Supplies!-Goibhniu-s-stones-and-more
NA announcement description: "Increases the probability of a successful Enhancement by 10% of the current success rate
For example, if odds of success are 50%, using a Goibhniu's Enhancement Stone will increase the odds to 55%"
http://vindictus.nexon.net/news/10932/urban-punk-and-angel-sets
There were others, but I'm not going to look for them.
I understand what you're trying to say, but that post is from 2015, two years ago. Ever since we have gotten this new enhancement system (Lvl 1-20.), the goib stone has been updated with a newer description.
However the link to the 50 to 55% would be the rate of*- but that's last year.
The link from 2016 you showed - it's multiplicative. However I want to know the current status for the goib. stone due to a newer description. (since past +15 is achievable) [Yes i know you can't use goibs. from +15 to +16 and beyond]
That's also why I chose to post the previous and current picture of the goib. stone.. Is it still multiplicative or now additive success enhancement rate?
The reason for this post is for that confirmation only.
The description is still the same though. The new one just has some lines saying the new restriction and to go to Ferghus.
You're being too nitpicky with by vs of. Increasing the rate by 10% doesn't mean it's only additive. That can also mean it's multiplicative, which it was and most likely still is. If you removed the second part, it'd still mean the same thing. If you were to describe percent change, you would still say it's a 10% increase/ it's increased by 10%.
It's highly unlikely they'd change it to be additive. Either way, your best bet is to ask GM's via ticket.
Think about it though, its the same thing with crit. even tho it says "+3%" that still just means 3 crit. so why wouldnt it be the same case with the Gobu stone?? if not they really need to change the system and CLEARLY explain this. I also agree with most of the comments of this damn stone doesnt work, feels like it has never worked ever.
Critical value is completely different than enhancement success rates, as critical values determine and may vary. Critical is affected by your enemy's crit resistance aswell, and other characters have a higher crit cap than others. You cannot relate to this, I don't see the similarities between the two.
Why can't they just display the success rate when you enhance an item?
I recall Ehgess confirming this. Other than that, actual +10% would be probably too strong.
Because that would prevent some people from trying, I guess? I was surprised they didn't rework this interface, like they did for enchanting.
Check this link that shows enhancement rates for weapon and armor pre and post-RISE:
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/.eJwVy8ENwyAMAMBdGAAHUwLOv_-qGyCDSqQGUOy8qu5e9f73Mdf5NptpqlM2AC7dll14nCXPaXkckFUzt6N2FUCPN0rkQkQiigkDeLdSxGWlhbxzPoUE995y5_ovjyH63KXa2V_m-wOmVSKy.2hpAO8VC2I9CvIBdBTkSLV3ZM6Y
That means that for a weapon that has 20% chance to reach +13, chance goes to 22% with goibhniu stone.
PS.: Btw, this link about enhancement was accurate pre-RISE, not anymore:
http://forums.vindictus.nexon.net/discussion/10979/enhancement
Maybe we should request that rates have to be risen up since they were subject to change anyway, chances to reach +13/14/15 are unfairly scarce now.