Question2

The last I heard from my friend who can read korean is that s3 raid bosses got buffed to 7.7m hp. I highly doubt they were given a 25% hp reduction from 5m hp. Maybe it was increased to 7.7 then reduced by 25%?

My main issues with RISE :

-All lower level mats become useless because derpcat was too lazy to write a script to convert them into the newer versions

-s1/s2 raids wont give seals anymore, makes it much harder to get seals, especially for new players, removes any reason to do them except for story/expertise farming. Trying to get parties to do drags or whatever now will be near impossible since they wont give seals anymore.

-s3 boss hp inflation

-Lame gimmicks to sell more runes (removal of double booming, +10 armor is a necessity now, etc)

-Everyone who has already claimed their level 90 character reward is screwed, this mainly affects newbies using the free level 90 gear while they try to get level 90 OJ gear now. They basically will not be able to do ANY damage in s3 raids afterwards.

-Removal of certain aspects of the game (lab, gauntlets, etc) so you can never get titles/sets from them unless you farmed them before

Does anyone else find it hilarious that the one time we get an update shortly after KR gets it, is also the one time where it's an update designed to sell more runes to make the director look good to his superiors?

Jentemoon wrote: »

SAX wrote: »

Jentemoon wrote: »

Hey Everyone!

You're right, the shop dates were suppose to be until June 14th! We went ahead and put the shop back up till the appropriate date. I apologize for the error and thank you everyone for reporting this to us!

Can you also fix the energy dumplings?, they expired too even when the box you get them from expire a week later

I'll report this to the team as well and see if they can fix this issue.

Unfortunately i think most people already deleted their dumplings...

Cloakshire wrote: »

Question2 wrote: »

They are removing the animation thing for pots/repair kits? But...the entire reason nobody bothers to use those in most raids is because of the animation...

Or because people don't know how to wait until the boss is attacking someone else before trying to use them.

Focus on dodging until the boss goes after someone else. When you see it using an extended attack pattern on someone else, that's your opportunity to use a potion or repair. It's not rocket science.

I'm glad that they're reversing the instant repair and instant potion. We don't need the game holding our hands when we want to drink a potion or repair our gear.

You misunderstand. Yes, of course you can find gaps to use repair kits/drink pots. But the cost:benefit ratio is not favourable. You are still rendering yourself vulnerable for several key seconds and the boss AI is programmed to prioritize players using those items. Even in the best case scenario, its not unusual to see the boss finish an attack then charge across the map to go after you.

People only drink pots in Nifleheim/Neam (Not counting s2 maps, etc) due to perma death. This is largely because you get a portion of HP back when you are ressed + most pots heal too little compared to the damage bosses do. The people who need to drink pots/repair armor the most often are the players with the least experience and weakest gear (assuming a normal raid). But there is no point in these players guzzling superior HP pots in a s2 or s3 raid if it takes 2-3 pots to heal one attack's worth of HP. That's why most players just use the "free" heal from being ressed and not bother with pots. No point repairing armor if the next boss attack is going to break another piece of armor.

For the players whom drinking pots/repairing armor may make a sufficient difference to matter...they are also the ones who are going to be dodging most of the time so they won't need to anyway. For example lets say you have 13k+ DEF (which requires really good s3 gear, not counting temp buffs or def stacking) and s3 raid bosses hit you for less than 1k damage. Yea, you can drink a potion after every hit to negate the damage you just took, but even if you don't, you probably won't die anyway, so why bother? At that point, the DPS loss from stopping to drink pots/repair armor is far more important than worrying about dying.

Unless there's perma death, you wont get players drinking pots regularly in a raid just because its easier to get ressed which is a free heal. It's not like there is a shortage of feathers unless you are soloing or two manning raids anyway.

Without the animation, there would actually be a reason for players to drink pots even without perma death, simply because it doesnt reduce your DPS and won't get you killed. It was probably the easiest solution to the problem without spending hours re-designing pots and boss AI.

Even in Nifleheim, it is VERY common to see players refusing to drink pots and dying several times. You can scream "git gud" at players all you want, but the potion system is just flawed and actively discourages people from drinking pots.

Hell, next time you do s3 raids, try telling your party to drink potions/use repair kits. Make it clear you are not joking. Most parties (especially if its a random party) will respond by either ignoring or laughing at you. That reaction should tell you all you need to know.

Theres definately plenty of "better" ways to revamp the potion system other than removing the animation, but derpcat only gets creative when they are trying to sell more runes. So we just get no potion revamp instead.

VinVin wrote: »

We aren't going to receive this update on 3rd. What are you sources for that? An update so big on Saturday and without any kind of mention?

Good question, according to my friend people on Discord kept saying that it was going global on June 3rd. Maybe its just a rumour.