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Token/Fatigue System.

aylbdraylbdr
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edited January 29 in General Discussion
What were you even thinking nexon? You tried this already and it failed miserably.

Do you really think that just changing the name will somehow make it more palatable?


((Note: by "challenging" I mean make the game more challenging to play, not more difficult to do the work.))
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  1. Do you think the fatigue system will make the game more "challenging and fun"?80 votes
    1. Yes
       1% (1 vote)
    2. No
       99% (79 votes)

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  • FlameSama1FlameSama1
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    "challenging and fun"

    Ah yes, because I just can't enjoy a game by simply playing it like some kinda of pleb, I need hoops to jump through to enjoy my rehashes of the same content with recycled attacks.
    GhengisJohnaylbdr
  • 탱크블레이드탱크블레이드
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    Considering Fatigue cost of S4 raids use 24% Fatigue and Crimson Ship Graveyard taking 28% I'd say that is gonna hurt a lot.
    Prototypemindaylbdr
  • SuhpremeSuhpreme
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    edited January 29
    AHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
    AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

    make fatigue cost relative to how many hits you took in a battle.
    anderzejn131
  • AkimbojoeAkimbojoe
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    I don't like this one bit.
    GhengisJohn
  • DancingStarDancingStar
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    Considering Fatigue cost of S4 raids use 24% Fatigue and Crimson Ship Graveyard taking 28% I'd say that is gonna hurt a lot.

    Holy crap... even worse than specials.
    300nx to get back 10% energy which woudln't even be enough for one S4 run. Pathetic. We really reached the bottom here.
    If this is not a shady attempt to make ppl pay to play idk what it is.
    IcygoddessDaimusGhengisJohnaylbdr
  • YagaminYagamin
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    Considering Fatigue cost of S4 raids use 24% Fatigue and Crimson Ship Graveyard taking 28% I'd say that is gonna hurt a lot.

    S4 raid boss Aodhan costs 10%.

    Technically, it is level 105 areas that cost 24% and 28%.
  • 탱크블레이드탱크블레이드
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    Yagamin wrote: »
    Considering Fatigue cost of S4 raids use 24% Fatigue and Crimson Ship Graveyard taking 28% I'd say that is gonna hurt a lot.

    S4 raid boss Aodhan costs 10%.

    Technically, it is level 105 areas that cost 24% and 28%.

    Yeh I should have been more accurate with that one. I forget Aodhan is even a S4 boss so it's weird that his Fatigue is low but others are high.
    aylbdr
  • 탱크블레이드탱크블레이드
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    Considering Fatigue cost of S4 raids use 24% Fatigue and Crimson Ship Graveyard taking 28% I'd say that is gonna hurt a lot.

    Holy crap... even worse than specials.
    300nx to get back 10% energy which woudln't even be enough for one S4 run. Pathetic. We really reached the bottom here.
    If this is not a shady attempt to make ppl pay to play idk what it is.

    Yeh the main concern of this is when we get more raids of that range not even VVIP will help players manage their Fatigue with the 3 free pots every hour.
    aylbdr
  • TheNewKaiTheNewKai
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    edited January 29
    I'm very upset about this. I can't even grind my old characters to level 100, forceably have to take several days to level when i could have done it in a few hours. Basically you get to play for an hour or 2 then theres nothing you can do. Such BS this is the worst thing they could have done. Can't even get any fatigue potions, this dice game is limited to high level players who can do those high level raids and not to mention you have to sacrifice your fatigue points just to get the dice. That or make us pay 10 bucks to get 10 or even less more runs?? & make us buy those vips, still greedy AF i see nexon.

    I sure as heck hope this doesnt last long, they basically made this game unplayable
    ForieGhengisJohnaylbdrJustFramedaws360
  • Hunter00000Hunter00000
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    Trash system
    GhengisJohnaylbdrJustFramedaws360
  • ZeroheartZeroheart
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    I like to report on Thursday night I ran out of Fatigue.

    On Tuesday I started with 300% with VIP and drank and slept, was able to get all guild stuff . Did a lot of special and S3 raids.
    On Wednesday was roughly 220% played and dropped down to below 100% also slept and drank for fatigue.
    On Thursday I ran out of fatigue.... This was with VIP and sleeping and the seal fatigue pot i could buy. Roughly most of S3 raids i have not done yet.

    I usually run each S3 raids twice, do RARS, Redeemers and dailies quest and now I can not. Thanks Nexon for thinking this game is another Dumb mobile game.

    There is a dumb practice where the Developers create problem and offer a money grabbing solution to solve it.

    Fallout 76 did it, with the premium clubhouse
    EA Sports does it, with their card packs
    The newest Pokemon games does it, with that pokemon bank and crap.

    NO ONE LIKES IT AND WILL LOSE PLAYER BECAUSE OF IT

    It is not bad that you guys for got about normal outfits and shoved everything in gatcha boxes where the Odds are insane. and privileged items if you spend more than most full games are.
    ForieAkimbojoeSaintGuinnessanderzejn131WilkoaylbdrPrototypemindJustFramedaws360
  • EloyasEloyas
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    If everyone stopped playing and spending, maybe they'd rethink this, but as usual people are just complaining while buying VVIP and potions. If you really want this gone, leave bad reviews on steam, uninstall the game and spend your money elsewhere.
    DancingStaranderzejn131aylbdr
  • TennotTennot
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    I understand Koran servers have this, but we are not on a Korean server. We don't have that many players and when we reach 0% fatigue, we just stop playing and what is with other people that need help with raids. Not all of us can solo them.
    This will only make prices even higher (because the drop rate of scrolls and materials SUCKS) and waiting in queue for people to join even longer. Nothing more.
    SaintGuinnessWilkoaylbdr
  • dazedgumballdazedgumball
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    Why implement a system where everyone hates it and causes people to fully quit? Nexon really enjoys shooting themselves in the foot a lot, huh?
    ZeroheartEmerthystSaintGuinnessanderzejn131WilkoGhengisJohndaws360aylbdr
  • ZeroheartZeroheart
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    Still waiting for the reason of getting rid of 8 man raids and the change of S1 and S2 raids to be normal and very easy. Doesn't Special Colru raid prove that players like 8 man raids. Isn't it better and more variety to keep the old raids instead forcing all players to just stick in season 3 bosses.

    Also doesn't fatigue ruin some events?
    Double raids event? Oh wait not enough fatigue to do them....
    Remember the event for completing certain raids a certain amount? Guess we can never do them ever again.
    Hey we giving you more Departure tickets... oh yeah fatigue cost is too much isn't?
    IcygoddessAkimbojoeDancingStarPrototypemindSaintGuinnessWilkoGhengisJohnaylbdrdaws360
  • WilkoWilko
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    edited February 1
    I'd prefer they gave me back my tokens instead if they're insisting on a stamina system. I could donate spare tokens to party members then.

    Edit: It occurs to me that back with the tokens they weren't eaten by the game until you killed bosses that consume them (ie. minibosses don't count, while any of the vampire bosses in Blood Prince takes the boat fee). That's not the case here where launching anything will consume fatigue regardless of how much or how little you actually do in the runs.
    aylbdr
  • aylbdraylbdr
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    edited February 25
    Hey, I'd just like to say thank you to everyone who replied here. I literally had to stay away from the forum because I'm so angry they did this to us, and the lie of it stopping bots especially has me fired up.

    I still can't even go into all the reasons why this negatively affects me personally in a major way, but suffice to say it's mostly because I am a GM and have been struggling with the guild point system for years now and doing daliy missions on a ton of alts is how I've kept our basic skills during times when the game starts dying again (like now). Well, they killed that for me now too. Since players are leaving in droves now, it's made things much harder, and I already was spending almost all of my game time just working for GP

    Please nexon, I miss actually playing this game. You've sucked all the fun out of it for me because instead I have just been working here everyday like a second job, because I actually care about my guild mates and refuse to give up. +fight

    And this fatigue system is how I'm rewarded by nexon for working so hard and being as good a GM as I am able. I'd be an even better GM if I could instead spend that time helping new guidlies and other players like I used to before the guild point system ruined the game for me. But no, instead they add this fatigue system, and my life in nexon just went from maddening to utterly fekked.

    The worst part? This will hurt nexons profits too. They are literally shooting themselves in the foot with this mess. Just remove it nexon, so we can all be better off, even and especially you.