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The Fatigue System

FurielFuriel
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edited January 28 in Suggestions and Feedback
Hello everyone

The time has come (once again) to combat the fatigue system. Please vote in the poll, like the page, comment, etc. and let's attempt to make Nexon hear our voices again.

Some of the positives about this system is the intent to combat bots that ruin the economy of the game, but simply fails to do so as bots can operate on several accounts simultaneously and switch whenever needed. Additionally it also incentivizes players to create and use alt characters to do raids, redeemers, abyssal arena, etc.

A major con about the system is the obvious pay2win element that is introduced with VIP/VVIP and fatigue draughts that create a massive gap between non paying players and those willing to invest real money in the game.
MellowedMaya22VindyVindellaAiremedFloshkaAM0NxChambot1337RdvnEmerthystVelisiriaand 67 others.
  1. Do you prefer a server with or without the fatigue system?284 votes
    1. I prefer a server WITH the fatigue system implemented
       5% (13 votes)
    2. I prefer a server WITHOUT the fatigue system implemented
       95% (271 votes)

Comments

  • Chambot1337Chambot1337
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    edited January 28
    Take the system off, it is useless
    VenshoKatlynnSgtDeserttajnakEllfieGattaca
  • AiremedAiremed
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    I feel like this system punishes me for spending my time in Vindictus.
    VenshoChambot1337KatlynnYakuzamatajnakanderzejn131StrangerinaGattaca
  • PlaksterPlakster
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    we dont need this **** we are fine with out the fatigue dont bring that trash here !
    VenshoKatlynnGattaca
  • KirisuuKirisuu
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    Nice! Good! Pepega!
    Nijika
  • AM0NxAM0Nx
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    edited January 28
    REMOVE OR DEAD GAME GZ BOIZ
    Venshotajnak
  • RhilinRhilin
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    Could you not, nexon?
    VenshoHyperwave
  • KaguraHimikoKaguraHimiko
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    Remove this stupid feature!
    If this is your way of slowly shutting down the game then we would rather you just say "hey we cant continue the game were going to shut it down"
    Instead of driving your players away slowly with this crap and squeezing the **** out of our wallets before doing so.

    GET A GRIP NEXON!
    VenshoKatlynnIcygoddess
  • EllfieEllfie
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    This game is already struggling with keeping people interested in a long term, why the hell do you want to restrict gaming experience even more? just to sell more VVIPS? It's a no from me
    WizertHarryAnnazKatlynnHyperwaveanderzejn131
  • kurosuke5566kurosuke5566
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    Nexon, you seriously need to play a game in the EU server without the system and see how bad it is already.

    If you add the fatigue system, you wishing your games a BuhBye.. cause people will leave and stop playing because of it.
  • TheDazzIingTheDazzIing
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    Please don't listen to these people :) they want to complay every update and this update is fine.
    They were told in the discord to come in big numbers and be against it :o
    Remember whay they did with that one mod or the voice update xd
    AS I SAID this update is fine.
    Nubs >:l
    FloshkaAM0NxSaber402Katlynn
  • YagaminYagamin
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    edited January 29
    Fatigue does not stop bots, bots will simply make more accounts. There is evidence that there is currently at least 600 bot accounts controlled by one of the botters. It's easy for them to make more accounts.

    Also, Fatigue is a nightmare when disconnects occur. You waste Fatigue the first time you load in, waste Fatigue again when you reload from a host disconnect, then again if the new host leaves fast.
    So in a raid, instead of spending 10% Fatigue for 1 run, you end up with spending 30%-60% Fatigue just to complete 1 raid.
    This is only for s3 raids with cost 10% per run.

    It is worse in Abyssal which cost 16% per run and Special which cost 20% per run.

    Now imagine what happens when trolls get involved:
    Fatigue trolling guide:
    Since Fatigue is reduced upon entering the dungeon, you can troll 7 people in [Special] Colru the Golem
    Join a Colru party (do not host), click leave but don't confirm the leave.
    Wait until the party launches and when the 8th player waves / just before the loading screen starts, confirm the leave.
    You will return to town without losing Fatigue.
    The other 7 players will lose 20% Fatigue, also they must leave because the run will not start without an 8th player.
    Because of this, they will lose 40% Fatigue minimum.
    If the host leaves before the rest of the party, the dungeon loads again for the remaining 6 for another 20% Fatigue loss.

    Overall, you will always burn 40% Fatigue for all 7 people without losing any yourself.
    If the new host keeps leaving fast, the last player can potentially lose 160% Fatigue

    EDIT: Tested, it actually doesn't decrease during leader change. You still make 7 people waste 20% Fatigue without wasting your own though.

    Fatigue should only be consumed on completion of the battle, not at the start.
    New characters should either be given free 7 days VVIP or have a buff which negates or restores Fatigue.
    If Nexon want stop bots, fatigue is not the answer. Just have a system which logs parties (or solo) which consist of people with low stats clearing Raids really quickly, then if you manually check you'll likely easily tell if it is a bot or not. Here's what bots currently look like: 9EC1wxi.png

    Also, this frog needs nerf:

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    kylAnthonytonyboyAnnazEloyasVenshoZatrihanSgtDesertKayanoYukiBoogieMkIIIcygoddessand 6 others.
  • AiremedAiremed
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    Please don't listen to these people :) they want to complay every update and this update is fine.
    They were told in the discord to come in big numbers and be against it :o
    Remember whay they did with that one mod or the voice update xd
    AS I SAID this update is fine.
    Nubs >:l

    Give me at least one reasonable argument why this system is a good idea for our server.
    PharCryVenshoKatlynnAnduriHyperwaveanderzejn131
  • AsannamiAsannami
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    Please, remove this system, it doesn't help the game in any way, you will just be pushing more people away from it.
    AndichuKatlynnAnduriYakuzamaHyperwaveStrangerina
  • KaguraHimikoKaguraHimiko
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    Please don't listen to these people :) they want to complay every update and this update is fine.
    They were told in the discord to come in big numbers and be against it :o
    Remember whay they did with that one mod or the voice update xd
    AS I SAID this update is fine.
    Nubs >:l

    Yeh, so its a good idea that they are driving players away? I dont think so, its not a fine update its a crap one. we never wanted it before why the hell would we want it now?
    VenshoAnduriHyperwave
  • AM0NxAM0Nx
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    REMOVE THIS **** REEEEEEEEEEEE
    SgtDesert
  • TheDazzlingTheDazzling
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    Personally it doesn’t affect me but I still see no reason for this system to be added on NA / EU :0 I hope it gets removed.
  • StudentOfTheGoddessStudentOfTheGoddess
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    Please don't listen to these people :) they want to complay every update and this update is fine.
    They were told in the discord to come in big numbers and be against it :o
    Remember whay they did with that one mod or the voice update xd
    AS I SAID this update is fine.
    Nubs >:l
    Personally it doesn’t affect me but I still see no reason for this system to be added on NA / EU :0 I hope it gets removed.

    So which is it?
  • YagaminYagamin
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    So which is it?

    There are 2 TheDazzling accounts. Can a mod ban the impersonator please?
  • AiremedAiremed
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    Please don't listen to these people :) they want to complay every update and this update is fine.
    They were told in the discord to come in big numbers and be against it :o
    Remember whay they did with that one mod or the voice update xd
    AS I SAID this update is fine.
    Nubs >:l
    Personally it doesn’t affect me but I still see no reason for this system to be added on NA / EU :0 I hope it gets removed.

    So which is it?

    please notice that it's not the same person.
  • TheDazzlingTheDazzling
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    Please don't listen to these people :) they want to complay every update and this update is fine.
    They were told in the discord to come in big numbers and be against it :o
    Remember whay they did with that one mod or the voice update xd
    AS I SAID this update is fine.
    Nubs >:l
    Personally it doesn’t affect me but I still see no reason for this system to be added on NA / EU :0 I hope it gets removed.

    So which is it?
    Sorry about that haha, there’s a kid that likes to impersonate me, so he can say what he actually thinks by using my image, that way he can let it all out without getting punished :0 I am completely against this update like I said.
    VenshoSgtDesert