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Why can't i get from +9 to +10 :CCCC

SunmiSunmi
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Failed 9 times trying to get from +9 to +10, what kind of curse- who hexed me- i don't need this pain in my life TT TT

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  • RagnastormRagnastorm
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    edited March 2, 2017
    rng is a fickle beast
  • IkarsuIkarsu
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    RNG is RNG. I failed the same amount of times as well on my bow and that reminds my why +ing isn't worth it when I could spend the coin on soda instead. It's SO-DApressing.
    SunmiShizukaaVoldaire
  • MochiSweetMochiSweet
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    Sry for hexing you i have to curse 100 ppl and steal their lucks so rnggoddess may give me another +15 :CCCC
  • ArishaLArishaL
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    Sunmi wrote: »
    Failed 9 times trying to get from +9 to +10, what kind of curse- who hexed me- i don't need this pain in my life TT TT

    Welcome to Nexon games where RNG is rigged just like Vegas. Hope you have deep pockets because thats the only way you'll get +10.
  • IkarsuIkarsu
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    ArishaL wrote: »
    Sunmi wrote: »
    Failed 9 times trying to get from +9 to +10, what kind of curse- who hexed me- i don't need this pain in my life TT TT

    Welcome to Nexon games where RNG is rigged just like Vegas. Hope you have deep pockets because thats the only way you'll get +10.

    or you can just save up 50 million gold and just buy it from another player... *drinks tea*
  • PrototypemindPrototypemind
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    Ikarsu wrote: »
    ArishaL wrote: »
    Sunmi wrote: »
    Failed 9 times trying to get from +9 to +10, what kind of curse- who hexed me- i don't need this pain in my life TT TT

    Welcome to Nexon games where RNG is rigged just like Vegas. Hope you have deep pockets because thats the only way you'll get +10.

    or you can just save up 50 million gold and just buy it from another player... *drinks tea*

    Except if everyone did that there would be no one to buy +10s from outside of coupon events...
  • SunmiSunmi
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    highkey shouldn't have been tempted and used that gear protection rune on the exchange shop
    hand me the rope <3
  • MadcobraMadcobra
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    edited March 5, 2017
    Try 10 times more and im sure you will get +10
  • Question2Question2
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    Sunmi wrote: »
    Failed 9 times trying to get from +9 to +10, what kind of curse- who hexed me- i don't need this pain in my life TT TT

    In my experience (this includes what ive heard from others as well) : If you have a weapon that fails a lot of times, get rid of it. Boom it if you can. Im not talking about reasonable fails, like failing to go from +5 to +8 ten times. Thats still reasonable. When you encounter the same weapon, on multiple days/times, failing something like +10 ten times....just calculate the probability of it happening. IIIRC its like 0.00098% or something like that, which is worse than 1 in 100,000.

    This is not a weapon you want to keep sinking runes into. Everyone that i know who has ended up with a weapon like this and kept sinking runes into it has regretted it. Dont fall for the sunk cost fallacy.

    My personal theory is that items are generated with a seed number which determines the numbers that can be rolled when you enhance it. So for example you might end up with a bad seed that only has a 10% chance to roll a 51 or higher to suceed at a 50% enhance. Of course this theory is impossible to prove without access to the source code/some insider info from Devcat. An example of a game that uses seeds for RNG generation is Titan Quest : When you start the game, you get a certain seed that determines what items may drop, so it is literally impossible to get certain sets/uniques to drop on one playthrough without restarting the game. IIRC, PSO:BB used a similar system where item drops were dependant on your character name/class combination (meant to encourage trading).

    The RNG in general is known to be streaky...very easy to see this if you incinerate items one by one and record the results.

    Of course if you dont believe me and want to keep sinking runes into the weapon, go ahead, its your money/runes.
    MadcobraSunmi
  • ChubuiChubui
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    Only enhance when Ferghus says "Welcome to the Forge"

    Easy +20% success

    Source: My dad codes for nexon
  • Question2Question2
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    Chubui wrote: »
    Only enhance when Ferghus says "Welcome to the Forge"

    Easy +20% success

    Source: My dad codes for nexon

    I tried this and failed 9 runes at 50% probability. If it ever did increased your enhance chance, it doesnt anymore.
  • PrototypemindPrototypemind
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    Question2 wrote: »
    Chubui wrote: »
    Only enhance when Ferghus says "Welcome to the Forge"

    Easy +20% success

    Source: My dad codes for nexon

    I tried this and failed 9 runes at 50% probability. If it ever did increased your enhance chance, it doesnt anymore.

    So 50%, which is +8 or lower that you were going for, just going for that, you went in and out of the forge however many times it took to get him to say "Welcome to the Forge" before each enhance attempt? Certainly not an impossibility, but I find it unlikely that you did something that tedious just to hit +8 or less.
  • HeavenBlueHeavenBlue
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    Chubui wrote: »
    Only enhance when Ferghus says "Welcome to the Forge"

    Easy +20% success

    Source: My dad codes for nexon

    I made a few +15 with Ferghus saying his shoulder is tired from hammering.. :#
  • XieXie
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    edited March 6, 2017
    I strip my Lann of all his armor and hope Ferghus likes what he sees. Then I press enhance. Confirmed to work only 50% of the time.

    ... plus I only go for it when he says, "come in, come in."

    Note: Don't try this with Videk ... that little scammer.
    ShizukaaImNotYourDad
  • Order5Order5
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    Xie wrote: »
    I strip my Lann of all his armor and hope Ferghus likes what he sees. Then I press enhance. Confirmed to work only 50% of the time.

    ... plus I only go for it when he says, "come in, come in."

    I suspect seduction only works 50% of the time because Ferghus's hammer swings one way half the time, then swings the other the rest of the time.
    2edgy4u
  • XieXie
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    Order5 wrote: »
    Xie wrote: »
    I strip my Lann of all his armor and hope Ferghus likes what he sees. Then I press enhance. Confirmed to work only 50% of the time.

    ... plus I only go for it when he says, "come in, come in."

    I suspect seduction only works 50% of the time because Ferghus's hammer swings one way half the time, then swings the other the rest of the time.

    Do you think it'll increase to 100% if I make Lann look like a girl?
  • Order5Order5
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    Xie wrote: »
    Order5 wrote: »
    Xie wrote: »
    I strip my Lann of all his armor and hope Ferghus likes what he sees. Then I press enhance. Confirmed to work only 50% of the time.

    ... plus I only go for it when he says, "come in, come in."

    I suspect seduction only works 50% of the time because Ferghus's hammer swings one way half the time, then swings the other the rest of the time.

    Do you think it'll increase to 100% if I make Lann look like a girl?

    No, because he'll still swing one way or the other. Continuing this line of thinking though...if a feminine looking character walks in and fails an enhancement, you might be able to succeed with a masculine looking character immediately afterwards.
  • XieXie
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    edited March 6, 2017
    Order5 wrote: »
    Xie wrote: »
    Order5 wrote: »
    Xie wrote: »
    I strip my Lann of all his armor and hope Ferghus likes what he sees. Then I press enhance. Confirmed to work only 50% of the time.

    ... plus I only go for it when he says, "come in, come in."

    I suspect seduction only works 50% of the time because Ferghus's hammer swings one way half the time, then swings the other the rest of the time.

    Do you think it'll increase to 100% if I make Lann look like a girl?

    No, because he'll still swing one way or the other. Continuing this line of thinking though...if a feminine looking character walks in and fails an enhancement, you might be able to succeed with a masculine looking character immediately afterwards.

    Rip, so I gotta get lucky that his hammer swings the right way when I come in to enhance.

    And lol what. That logic. But I can see it.
    If anyone tries it and it works, let me know.
  • KMonkKMonk
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    Save your money, get +10-15 coupon March 11. Easy game.
  • ZupseroZupsero
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    MochiSweet wrote: »
    Sry for hexing you i have to curse 100 ppl and steal their lucks so rnggoddess may give me another +15 :CCCC

    its like religion right? you have to devot, praise and serve!